欢迎指正：the same as 的用法总结

IceOnMe

提出一点反对意见。

我认为xdf-22题不能选the same...as..的原因是that前面有逗号了。

hi girl,

有逗号是因为some 25 degrees above the horizon 是插入语,当他是空气好了.

the same ... as  和the same X that 区别就是在于前者是在做比较,后者只是定语修饰

逻辑意义上的区别很大,所以一般不太会搞错

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sandy_zxj

C中的the same year that ... 难道不应该改成 the same year when 。。。 吗？

hitler999

以下是引用cissy在2003-12-28 18:38:00的发言：
但在xdf补充题中
22. In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.
(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do
d
因为此处动作都是是 pass，故可以用as来引导从句。只是前后的时态不一样，所以为了强调这一点， as后的will 没有省略。

个人意见：这里不用that的原因是，若用that，会出现指代问题，因为that指代了两个事物（distance/position）。

canyons

OG的解释：

Choices A and D incorrectly substitute as for that to introduce the relative clause。

OG的意思是不是说as后面只能引导名词，不能引导句子啊。

我看了下面的几个例句，as后面的好像都是名词结构，that后面的是句子。

XDF的那道题目，that没有指代对象，A,B错，D好像也是as后面用句子结构，有点搞不清楚了。请指正。

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canyons

自己顶一下，希望nn看到了帮忙解答，多谢了

springappleleaf

174. A letter by Mark Twain, written in nayear as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published, reveals that Twain provided financial assistance to one of the first Black students at Yale Law School.
A. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,
B. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,
C. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,
D. Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year as he published The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that
E. Mark Twain wrote a letter in the same year of publication as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn that

The answer is C.

However, my question is: if "that" introduce a relative clause, what role does "that" play in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published? We cannot say publish year!

In my opinion, the correct sentance should be the following:

A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year in which The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,

Please comment. Thanks

howardwang

以下是引用ecru在2005-4-28 15:42:00的发言：

提出一点反对意见。

我认为xdf-22题不能选the same...as..的原因是that前面有逗号了。

而我在网上查到的the same as 和the same that的区别如下（来源是中学课件），我觉得还比较有道理：

The same as, the same that的辨析
1) the same …as有两个含义：“和……一样”，“像……那样”。
比如：She is wearing the same dress as she wore yesterday. 这句话有两个含义：a.她

穿着昨天穿的那件衣服。（就是同一件）b. 她穿的衣服像她昨天穿的那件。（即只是像，但

不是同一件）

2）the same…that为“和……一样的”。
比如：She is wearing the same dress that she wore yesterday.她穿着昨天穿的那件衣

服。即只等于the same …as的第一个含义。

3）若要表示“同一个”时，关系代词可用as,也可用that.若要表示“不是同一个”时，关系

代词只用as。

4)如果后面的从句不完整，从句谓语动词省略了，就只能用as,不用that。

总结的很好。再加一条。

5)在下列情况下，只能用that而不能用as:

as只能是关系代词，但是that可以作为关系副词和关系代词的。

如：I live in the same city that he lives.此处只能用that，而不能用as;

但是，如果稍加改动，I live in the same city as he lives in。则就可以用as了，因为,as此时是关系代词（当然，此处也可以用that）。

FionaLiang

顶!

fuyun

不能用that和前面的逗号没有关系。,some 25 degrees above the horizon,是同位于，可以跳过不看，直接看后面的从句内容

这里that 引导同位于从句，解释说明position。但是句子缺少的是定于从句修饰the same position，要用where引导定于从句，修饰position。

liverping

5)在下列情况下，只能用that而不能用as:

as只能是关系代词，但是that可以作为关系副词和关系代词的。

如：I live in the same city that he lives.此处只能用that，而不能用as;

但是，如果稍加改动，I live in the same city as he lives in。则就可以用as了，因为,as此时是关系代词（当然，此处也可以用that）。

提问一下：按照这种解释那原题中A选项是否在published后面加上in 就是正确的呢（改were为was）？谢谢

A. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn were published,

C. A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published,