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jukeboxtt

就业情况和Starting salary是王道。这样就不难理解为什么michigan的排名总是比Duke高了。

fisherrui

hehe if we look at starting salaries, employment at graduation, employment 3 months after graduation and tuition, then UVA Darden should at the top amongst yale, cornell, ucla, umich and duke.  i guess undergrad gpa, and gmat have more weight then the factors that i listed above? 

三十以后

以下是引用fisherrui在2008-4-2 1:53:00的发言：
hehe if we look at starting salaries, employment at graduation, employment 3 months after graduation and tuition, then UVA Darden should at the top amongst yale, cornell, ucla, umich and duke.  i guess undergrad gpa, and gmat have more weight then the factors that i listed above? 

Pretty interesting isn't it?  I think it says a lot about the theory of the different schools.

Basically I think starting salary  is pretty good indication of "buckets" of different schools.  Like top 3 sarting salary higher than 130,000, then there's M7 starting salary higher than 125,000, then there's buch of other top 10/15 between 115,000 and 125,000.  The difference between "top 10" and "top 15" is small.

There's definetely industry bias and location bias here (like NYU students probably earns more just because of the location), but generally I think the salary are what you could expect when you get out of school.  Some highest paied jobs only open to top 3 (PE/Hedge fund/VC etc. Other schools may have access to these industries, its just MUCH harder), then second tier paied job like consulting and IB only opens to top 15(but M7 have a much higher percentage).  Then anyone below top 15 are basically can only access to industry jobs which is lower paid (not saying they are worse, just lower paid). Sort of like a food chain.

To make all what I wrote make sense- be clear on what industry you want to get in, and understand the odds of getting in that industry from your target school.

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ChrisX

One stupid question: is it more difficult to get into PE/Hudge Fund/VC firms than to IB/MC firms?

三十以后

Yes, below is career stat of Chicago, you can see PE/VC has highest median salary but only 3.6% hiring.

Remeber GSB is very strong in finance.

Industry	Percent	Number	Minimum	Maximum	Median	Median
	of Hires	of Hires	Salary(1)	Salary(1)	Salary(1)	Sign-On(1,2,3)
Advertising/Marketing Services	0.6%	3	Insufficient data(1)
Auto and Transportation Services	1.0%	5	$22,000	$115,000	$93,500	$22,500
Consulting	24.4%	123	$52,000	$140,000	$120,000	$20,000
Consumer Packaged Goods	5.0%	25	$86,000	$124,000	$90,000	$20,000
Financial Services	50.8%	256	$61,000	$167,000	$95,000	$40,000
Financial Services - Commercial Banking	1.6%	8	$77,000	$131,500	$90,000	$29,645
Financial Services - Diversified Financial Services	6.5%	33	$61,000	$140,000	$95,000	$35,000
Financial Services - Investment Banking/Brokerage	30.0%	151	$74,000	$167,000	$95,000	$40,000
Financial Services - Investment Management	9.1%	46	$75,000	$133,000	$105,000	$20,000
Financial Services - Venture Capital/Private Equity	3.6%	18	$85,000	$156,600	$120,000
Government/Nonprofit	1.2%	6	$55,000	$85,000	$82,000
Manufacturing	1.8%	9	$85,000	$105,000	$92,500	$17,500
Media/Entertainment	0.4%	2	Insufficient data(1)
Petroleum/Energy	2.6%	13	$90,000	$120,000	$100,000	$25,000
Pharmaceutical/Biotechnology/Health Care Services	2.6%	13	$60,000	$112,000	$100,000	$20,000
Real Estate	0.8%	4	Insufficient data(1)
Retail	1.2%	6	$80,000	$95,000	$90,000	$10,000
Technology	6.3%	32	$78,000	$135,000	$110,000	$11,000
E-Commerce and Internet	1.6%	8	$80,000	$135,000	$117,500	$20,000
Electronic Equipment	2.8%	14	$90,000	$120,000	$118,000	$10,000
Software/Printing/Publishing	2.0%	10	$78,000	$120,000	$103,000	$8,000
Other	1.4%	7	Insufficient data(1)
Total	100.0%	504	$22,000	$167,000	$100,000	$25,000