谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia

northeuro

以下是引用uptowngirl在2008-2-21 16:04:00的发言：

谢谢各位的回复。还有个问题：

UVA是去年给的defer offer, 所以我今年要去；

DUKE是今年给的defer offer,所以我要明年才能去。

到今年入学，我才一年半的工作经验。

大家觉得，综合考虑，我是应该今年去UVA呢，还是明年去DUKE? 一年和两年的工作经验有什么大的差别吗? What worries me a lot is that I might have difficulties finding jobs after graduation... Will my AICPA certificate (not a CPA license) help in any way? What will my career prospects be like in two years' time?

First, Cong on your offers from both excellent schools.  As current school of Duke, I have no hands-on clue for UVA program although I also got offer from UVA when I applied.  Just provide 2 cents of general thoughts about MBA education.

Without much working experience, you would surely suffer from highly case-oriented method at UVA.  I would argue that 1 yr and 2 yr w/e do have difference, but in my opinion, you are still too young to receive MBA education.  Without enough working experiences, your understanding to industry, to leadership and to business might not as sharp as your peer classmates, so which might affect your job haunting.  But if you want to do finance, there might be a little bit differences.

Actually we couple of current students at Duke plans to hold a informal welcome session for incoming students around middle March in Shanghai (after R2 result released). So if you can join us, you might find it helpful.

Best,

david811

Hope I can join the incoming students session to meet you guys

李大衛

以下是引用kidmann在2008-2-21 12:27:00的发言：
I think Duke's OVERALL reputation is much higher than UVA.

When my cousin applied to undergrad, he considered Duke as his "reach", but UVA as a "safety"

Undergrad is totally different planet. Here we're discussing MBA. It doesn't matter about overall reputation, but the recruitment performance matters.

See what happened on BW forum

http://forums.businessweek.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=74404.33&nav=messages&webtag=bw-bschools

李大衛

以下是引用yorkgf在2008-2-21 16:54:00的发言：
如果是finance，去duke吧
另外，楼主好强啊，半年工作经验能拿到uv的offer
口水哗哗的~~~~~~~~

You can see the comparison of both finance courses. Darden is simply one-level more sophisticated and detailed. Fuqua	Darden
Corporate Finance	Corporate Financing
Investment	Investment Strategy and Arbitrage
Entrepreneurial Finance	Entrepreneurial Finance & Private Equity
Advance Corporate Finance	Fixed Income Instruments
International Corporate Finance	Derivative Securities: Options & Futures
Corporate Restructuring	Managing Turnarounds and Workouts
Emerging Markets	Capital Market Flows & Institutions
Venture Capital & Private Equity	Small-Enterprise Finance
Raising Capital: Financial Instruments, Institutions & Strategy	Strategic Mgt of Financial Srv Org
	Corporate Financial Policies
	Mergers and Acquisitions

BD09

Dear Sir,

You lost all your credit as an "mba admissions adviser" by making a strong claim such as "Darden is simply one-level more sophisticated and detailed." on finance simply based on the names of courses. 

I believe anybody having reasonable knowledge on US MBA programs would generally agree Fuqua and Darden are both great schools and enjoy similar level of great respects among students and recruiters.  I had to laugh when you declared that Darden is a top 10 while Duke is around 20 in another post.  Good luck with your career as a professional mba admissions adviser.

I am sure, sir, as a graduate from T'bird, the No.1 international business school, you never gave Darden or Fuqua a thought when you applied B' school.

a member of Fuqua class 09

以下是引用李大衛在2008-2-22 3:36:00的发言：

You can see the comparison of both finance courses. Darden is simply one-level more sophisticated and detailed. Fuqua	Darden
Corporate Finance	Corporate Financing
Investment	Investment Strategy and Arbitrage
Entrepreneurial Finance	Entrepreneurial Finance & Private Equity
Advance Corporate Finance	Fixed Income Instruments
International Corporate Finance	Derivative Securities: Options & Futures
Corporate Restructuring	Managing Turnarounds and Workouts
Emerging Markets	Capital Market Flows & Institutions
Venture Capital & Private Equity	Small-Enterprise Finance
Raising Capital: Financial Instruments, Institutions & Strategy	Strategic Mgt of Financial Srv Org
	Corporate Financial Policies
	Mergers and Acquisitions

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BD09

以下是引用uptowngirl在2008-2-20 18:11:00的发言：

拿到这两个学校的offer,

除了告诉我要看自己适合以外，

谁能比较一下duke vs. U of Virginia? 谢谢。

As suggested by northeuro, try to talk to current/former students from both schools.  Also a school visit would help a lot if that's possible.  Feel free to drop me a message.

a member of Fuqua class 09

uptownmusic

UVA是个不错的公立学校，Darden也是不错的school，但是Duke名声较好，中国学生的placement会好一些，今年的暑期实习结果便是证明。

majiajiia

lz,

please share your background

nautic

以下是引用李大衛在2008-2-21 9:15:00的发言：

Dardan is top 10 B-school in the U.S. and is one of the most important core schools in management consulting and investment banking industries.

it's highly regarded in top consulting firms like McKinsey and investment banking like Goldman Sach, Morgan Stanley and others in Wall Street.

Darden's curriculum is also more committed in MBA program design, more sophisticated and well-rounded in general management, leadership, marketing communication, and finance management.

Entrepreneurship is a solid new highlight with deep commitment.

Strongly well-connected across multidisplinary management strategy and tactics.

Emphasize on quantitative analysis and consulting tools.

Case study is one particular highlight, but it depends on personal taste.

http://www.darden.edu/uploadedFiles/Programs/MBA/curriculumGuide.pdf

http://www.darden.edu/html/standard.aspx?menu_id=22&styleid=4&id=540

you can see the commitment when faculty explain the details of program design in 2nd-yr.

Duke is strong national school, generally ranked around 20. Emphasize on teamwork.

Good general management but a bit less sophisticated than Darden.

Particularly strong in bio-tech and medical industry.

Some people believe Fuqua is a great marketing school since lots of health sector giants have strong preference for Fuqua graduates.

http://ee.fuqua.duke.edu/courses/

小弟不才，您老说Darden是top10学校。但是为啥我查遍近5年的USNews和BusinessWeek Top10排名都没看到Darden. 您老说Duke "general ranked around 20",我也查了排名，从来没看到Duke排到过20。不知道你老用的啥独门排名，独乐乐不如与众乐乐。

此外，您列出一对课程名字比较两个学校金融实力深度的分析方法很有新意也很有深度。

祝愿你的MBA职业咨询业务越来越红火，让更多迷茫中的MBA获得你的指导。

Zoolantz

我觉得问题的关键不在于选择哪所学院，因为两家真的是各有千秋，难分高低。关键的问题是LZ应不应该以一年半的工作经验而去读MBA。总的感觉，一年半太短，两年半都不多。当然，由于不了解LZ的背景，既然两所学院都给了offer就证明LZ还是很有潜力的。个人建议LZ再工作一年，多积累些经验和阅历，这样明年去Duke的时候不论在挑选方向还是在课堂参与方面都会更成功些。

“心急吃不到热豆腐”，我中学时候就发誓要读MBA，这都工作5年了才认为自己磨炼的差不多了，准备年底报09年的。LZ还这么年轻，再忍忍，今年还能再申请一下HBS，Wharton什么的，也许还就成了呢，不行明年去Fuqua，一样可以成为出色的人才。