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个位数惨案开新贴:可以reevaluate听力 调查结果已经出来,惨败

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发表于 2007-11-24 23:13:00 | 只看该作者

想问一下量小非君子:

你的确觉得你不可能得如此低的分数才一追到底的吗?别误会,我的意思是,你考场上的感觉是怎样的,确实觉得自己听清楚了至少50%以上,并且答题也比较自信肯定的说?如果你能把背景讲的更清楚,可能对其他人会有更大的帮助!因为最近的确得超低分的人很多。

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-24 23:41:00 | 只看该作者

回复:kaili_f

我穷追不舍有两个原因:

1.我觉得我不可能这么低分,这主要是通过两次考试的对比得出的。我两次考试都加试听力,题目也完全一样,第一次加试是自己做的,第二次是把在网上收集的答案背出来的。加试部分应该错不了几个,如果加试算分的话,会只有7分吗?如果不算分,那即使数据没传过去也不会影响到分数啊。而且非加试部分我也觉得做比第一次好,我还与机经对了答案,发现错的不多。而第一次有19分,这次才7分,想不通啊。

2.我已经拿到conditional offer,托福上80行,申请的明年1月1日入学,根本没有时间再考了,只能咬住ETS不放,除此之外实在没一点办法了啊

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-25 01:06:00 | 只看该作者

准备写投诉信的请注意

这几天,很多难友都发了邮件给ETS,但是大部分都没能在发第一封邮件后就获得立案(得到CASE ID,我认为是没有开门见山明确表明发邮件是来投诉(complain)的,导致ETS误解了我们的意思,回的信要么说只能口语和写作才能复议,要么说要我们找NEEA等等答非所问的东西。这是因为ETS没有把这些邮件当成complain来对待,当然也就不会立案调查了。后来我们只好又发邮件去说我们是来投诉的,不是来咨询的,别让我们再找NEEA,因为NEEA要我们来找你们,别把责任推来推去。这样才立了案,但一来一回浪费了不少时间和精力。与此同时已经有难友在立案调查后收到了关于调查结果的回信,ETS说他们派了两个专家重新对他的听力部分进行了评分,发现原来的成绩是正常的,没有错误。为了防止ETS也这样搪塞我们,是不是可以在投诉信上要求他们提供评分的细节,即到底错了多少题,题号分别是什么等。


为了方便大家,我写了个投诉信样板,写得不好,仅供大家参考。希望大家能吸取前人的教训,把投诉信写好,免得再浪费更多的时间和精力。
 Dear sir or madam:  
 In this mail, I want to complain for what have happened to me and many other test taters from mainland China . I have made call to NEEA, but they said we must contact you directly.  

  As far as I know, there are many test takers who got an unbelievable low listening score though they think they did very well in the listening section . So we think there is something wrong with the test system. 

Please check my score for the listening part to find out the problem of the score system.
Please make sure that you have noticed that what I want you to check is the listening section, not the speaking and writing sections.


Moreover one of my friends who had complained for the same problem  got a responce from you after he got a CASE ID .
Below is the reply to him from ETS:


Dear XXX:
We have received your email regarding the iBT TOEFL exam you had taken on September 14, 2007.  There are numerous versions of the TOEFL exam with many levels of difficulty. However, due to the

nature of your inquiry, two ETS specialists carefully reviewed the Listening section of your exam. There were no technical issues with your exam. The scoring was reevaluated and the score for the Listening section is correct. If you have any further questions, please contact us. TOEFL Services TRACKING NUMBER: A00006171361-00023937170.
 
If you will give a same response to me, I don't think it's enough and convinced. So, please give me specific details of the scoring for the listening section: how many questions that I gave wrong answers to, and please give me the sequence numbers of the questions ; Did I leave some questions and did not give answers to them, if any, please give the sequence numbers of these questions to me ( I am sure that I have answered all the questions).


I think, as a examinee, I have the right to know the details of this problem. If you said that the scoring was reevaluated and the score for the Listening section is correct without giving me the details I want, I will consider indicting ETS with  many test takers who face the same situation and  have the same claim as me in the court if we can't get content results.

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发表于 2007-11-25 01:17:00 | 只看该作者

拿到case了,不知道会不会有结果

Thank you for contacting the TOEFL Program.

Dear ,

Regarding your inquiry:

We have forwarded your inquiry to the appropriate area for a response. Please allow sufficient time for a representative to respond. Your case number is Case#4296234.

We appreciate the opportunity to assist you. If you have additional questions, please contact TOEFL Customer Service at 1-877-863-3546 or 1-609-771-7100, or visit the Web site at www.toefl.org. If you contact us via e-mail, please include all previous correspondence or a summary of information regarding your inquiry.

ETS is committed to improving your customer service experience. Please take a moment and complete a short Customer Service Survey at http://surveys1013.websurveyor.net/wsb.dll/bfried/ETSProgramEmail.htm?WSB36=TOEFL/TSE. Thank you in advance for your participation.

CEC1296
CRM#4296234

TRACKING NUMBER: A00006279258-00024312754

25#
 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-25 01:20:00 | 只看该作者

至少又多了点希望,祝你成功

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-25 10:51:00 | 只看该作者

又收到ETS的邮件

今天早上3点多(也就是美国时间星期六下午2点多)收到ETS邮件,不过内容还是说正在处理,要给他们足够时间。看来ETS周末也上班的。赞一个。
Thank you for contacting the TOEFL Program

Dear ,

Regarding your inquiry:

Your inquiry has already been forwarded to the appropriate area for a
response. Please allow sufficient time for a representative to respond.
27#
发表于 2007-11-25 16:22:00 | 只看该作者
不要沉了啊,不好找了!
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-25 17:20:00 | 只看该作者
xiaohailong ,谢谢你帮我顶了这么多次
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-11-25 17:20:00 | 只看该作者
xiaohailong ,谢谢你帮我顶了这么多次
30#
发表于 2007-11-25 19:23:00 | 只看该作者
顶一个,祝你好运!
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