为了MBA是该维持现状还是重新找个工作？

wongwon

本人今年3月份毕业（Top的学校本科并直升硕士），然后在一家以培训好而知名的外企里做管理培训生，做的是技术支持方向的，也就是说两年培训期结束后可能定岗在技术支持部门，主要做售前工作，也会有些售后工作。目前第一个轮岗也是在技术支持，接下来会有销售和市场部门的轮岗。在第一个轮岗时机会很好，学到了很多东西，而且很有幸成为中国区少数几个熟悉最新进入中国的几个产品（这几个产品会在这几年内大力推广）的员工，也因此被别人当成这几个新产品的专家了，呵呵。明年初会开始销售的轮岗，然后就是市场了。2009年的时候会从program毕业。

可以说培训的两年应该能扩大我的exposure，学到很多东西，但我现在很矛盾的是，两年后定岗如果去了技术支持的话，会不会没有什么大的发展，而不能实现我在工作三年后（2010年）申请MBA的梦想？因为平常跟同事之间的交流的时候，他们告诉我在我这家公司，技术没什么大的发展，而且公司也不是很重视技术。

正因为如此，我现在考虑是不是趁着现在又一轮校园招聘高峰之时重新找个工作，找个可以发展更快的公司或行业，比如咨询之类的（我去年申请过一些，不过运气不佳，一家终面fail了），或者更好的一些program（比如ge的fmp）。因为我不想再耽误时间了，否则年龄大了申请mba就需要顾及很多了。

但另一方面目前的培训program还是让自己比较满意，因此我现在十分矛盾，不知道如果抉择。

苦于自己经验太少，对mba的申请也不甚了解，也没有network和读过mba的过来人深入探讨我的职业发展，只好在此发文，希望大家能够指点迷津，万分谢谢了。

yaoyao99

Don't choose anything for MBA but do it for your career.  MBA is only one of the paths that you can take, not a final destination.

liangn97

Completely agree with yaoyao！

starbird

1。最好先确认一下，两年的培训项目对应多少违约金、合约期多长

2。两年的培训项目未必能给你创造工作实绩的机会，对申请MBA 可能不会有太大帮助，不论你定什么岗

3。偶尔一次跳槽可能无所谓，频繁跳槽无论对你的申请，或是今后事业不会有什么积极影响。如果决定要跳，请慎重选择公司。

4。如果真的觉得现在的培训项目不错，不如与MBA 分析对比一下。同样都是两年期，有时候企业内培训并不比MBA 差。

matthewmars

people move through lives without really thinking about where they are going

my advice:

1)forget about the career

2)stop comparing with your friends

3)think about what you want to do (triple-think)

4)and then dream what you want to dream, go where you want to go

MBA is just one option.

in my opinion, it is career push you forward, but not you go after it

crazecat123

其实技术支持本身没有什么发展，但如果你利用这个机会能和客户打交道（因为你说主要做售前工作）的话，可以转型到ｃｏｎｓｕｌｔｉｎｇ或者ｓａｌｅｓ　ｅｎｇｉｎｅｅｒ。　不过我认为如果能找着一个像你说的发展更快的公司或行业，那你的起步就更高了。　这些都是我的想法，供楼主参考。

wongwon

谢谢各位楼上的答复, 也明白了不能把MBA当作career的必修课.

但我还有一点疑惑的是,我现在还是不太明白到底我想要做什么, 而且有时候会觉得做技术支持会不会就这样默默无闻干了一辈子. 我是一个不愿意平平庸庸的人,经常梦想着将来能够进入管理职位,或者能进入vc这个行业,因为以前在一家小型的vc公司实习过,而且对vc也比较感兴趣.

至于楼上说的转型到sales,我自认为自己的性格不太适合做sales,而且也不愿意做sales.

所以每当静下心来就会思考自己的career,就会陷入上述的思考和挣扎之中...

matthewmars

以下是引用wongwon在2007-11-19 22:38:00的发言：

谢谢各位楼上的答复, 也明白了不能把MBA当作career的必修课.

但我还有一点疑惑的是,我现在还是不太明白到底我想要做什么,

generally, few people know what they want to do. you figure out one career goal/living style some day, within 5 years, you will find out another direction. remeber, people change, dreams also change. therefore, just make a short-term goal(lets say, 2 years), pursue it, and forget what will happen after 2 years. maybe you will ask: is this a man who can not see beyond his nose? i will answer: that is the reality of human being.

而且有时候会觉得做技术支持会不会就这样默默无闻干了一辈子. 我是一个不愿意平平庸庸的人,经常梦想着将来能够进入管理职位,

there are manager/director/VP of techinical support. do you think these managers are not real managers? yes, they are managers, although less important than sales director, marketing director, BD director, blahblahblah, but, they are still managers with power and money. furthermore, i have to tell you again, it is career push you forward, but not you go after it.

或者能进入vc这个行业,因为以前在一家小型的vc公司实习过,而且对vc也比较感兴趣.

至于楼上说的转型到sales,我自认为自己的性格不太适合做sales,而且也不愿意做sales.

let me guess, sales manager who do not need to play with the customers is one of your favorite positions. am i right? emmm, think about those sales guys, do you really think they are not ambitious in this position? and think about the supervisors of the manager, do you really think they will put a guy without sales experience on it?

所以每当静下心来就会思考自己的career,就会陷入上述的思考和挣扎之中...

heres the difference. I will find, or try to, something fun but not boring when Im calm and peaceful. everytime im in struggle (no matter what it is), I will make a decision as soon as possible.

almost 8 years working experience teach me a lot. the way changes all the time you see the world, the society, my colleagues, my bosses, my friends, and myself.

one of my bosses used to teach me the principles of life. I asked him why he taught me these stuff. Heres the answer: the duty of older people.

Im not old enough, but I would like to reveal something that might be complicated to you.

1)never plan anything that will happen two years later

think about pursue MBA degree which means huge money, opportunity cost, time cost, unpredicatble future, big pressure, etc.. it just takes you 2 years.

2)manager is manager, no matter what department he/she manages.

3)work overseas or study abroad is very important to develop your career, especially you work in a MNC. citizenship of developed county is much better.

4)CEO is the biggest sales of the company first, and then CEO itself.

5)making friend with your boss. it is difficult, but necessary. It is the only way you get promoted.

6)you are an expert when you stay with your boss, and you are boss when you stay with your staff. it is the only way you show values to your boss, and let your people feel they are important.

7)the most significant meaning of assigments is let your boss know you do it quick and perfect.

8)theres nothing you are not willing to do. only two questions you need to consider: 1) is it benefit me? 2)is my boss happy? character-restrained? nothing but an excuse.

wongwon

matthewmars,真不知道该说什么来感谢你了,看了你的一番回话,感慨良多.

我发现我现在的问题出在对career想的太多, 老是会担心自己两年后可能定岗的技术支持会没什么发展空间, 再加上之前老是想着希望读个MBA, 从而引发了现在想换工作的想法. 实际上对这两年的培训计划,我还是感觉比较满意的,因为公司比较重视,而且机会和各种exposure会比较多.

以下是引用matthewmars在2007-11-20 2:40:00的发言：

almost 8 years working experience teach me a lot. the way changes all the time you see the world, the society, my colleagues, my bosses, my friends, and myself.

one of my bosses used to teach me the principles of life. I asked him why he taught me these stuff. Heres the answer: the duty of older people.

Im not old enough, but I would like to reveal something that might be complicated to you.

1)never plan anything that will happen two years later

think about pursue MBA degree which means huge money, opportunity cost, time cost, unpredicatble future, big pressure, etc.. it just takes you 2 years.

2)manager is manager, no matter what department he/she manages.

3)work overseas or study abroad is very important to develop your career, especially you work in a MNC. citizenship of developed county is much better.

这点是不是又回到出国读mba那条路了?

4)CEO is the biggest sales of the company first, and then CEO itself.

5)making friend with your boss. it is difficult, but necessary. It is the only way you get promoted.

6)you are an expert when you stay with your boss, and you are boss when you stay with your staff. it is the only way you show values to your boss, and let your people feel they are important.

7)the most significant meaning of assigments is let your boss know you do it quick and perfect.

8)theres nothing you are not willing to do. only two questions you need to consider: 1) is it benefit me? 2)is my boss happy? character-restrained? nothing but an excuse.

 

matthewmars

呵呵，无所谓感谢，我不过痴长了几岁，多吃了些亏而已

在外资企业，持中国护照，做到director级别基本到头了(极个别精英可以做到大中华区的老大)。当然能这样已经证明你各方面都很出色了，因为你要面临来自众多同胞的竞争以及鬼子上司对你的不信任

在大型国企，没过硬的关系，也基本没戏

在民企，我不了解。不过我认为现阶段民企处于原始积累期，意味着你要付出血汗而没有收获的保证，可一旦赌对了(好比10年前的华为)，你基本就小发(华为的老员工发年奖和红利的时候都是考虑换个房子什么的问题)

你自己观察下，看看你们公司的中国公民最高坐到什么位置，就知道我什么意思了

出国读书、工作、换身份，不是只有MBA一条路。想想其他的途径，比如换加拿大护照，5年内住满2年就行了。欧盟的比较麻烦，公司不帮你(前提是你在欧洲公司工作)，我觉得只有结婚一个途径了，北欧会稍微容易一点