关于商学院PhD的学习生活

cgchengang

都说＂ＰhD is a lifestyle＂. 我打算申请香港和新加坡商学院的ＰhD，所以想多了解一下商学院的ＰhD的学习生活，我想这也是许多申请者希望了解的，我想请教以下几个问题：
1．  商学院读博，最后读不下来的人比例大概有多大啊？达到三分之一吗？比如新加坡，博士万一读不下来的话一般授予硕士学位吗？
2．  我在其它贴子里看到，去读博相当多的时间是用来帮导师干活的，那是不是意味着好象朝九晚五的上班族那样一周要干五天活，然后只能用晚上的时间看书啊？如果是商科，应该不是在实验室工作的，那是帮导师干什么呢，在电脑前收集资料攒文章？
3．  还有一个问题，不好意思，实在是想了解一下，读博得强度到底多大啊，是不是一天除去干活和学习外，很难保证7个小时的睡眠啊？

不好意思问了这些琐碎的问题，大家一起分享一下自己所了解的情况吧，谢谢！！

sm1

Based on my observation, 80% can graduate.

Different universities require different work hours for professors, such as CUHK requires 12 hours and Langnan requires very little, less than ......seem nothing. As for the work, difficult to say because you do not know who you will follow.

7 hours sleeping, no problem.

nancy1987

hk is ok...i do think most of them can graduate.

那是帮导师干什么呢，在电脑前收集资料攒文章

-for this ,ug student will do that...but sometimes prof will ask pg student to do it too. (u will get pay, of course)

joysource

I disagree that PhD is a so-called lifestyle...Sounds a bit weird...It's just an array of intellectual training that might be helpful to your future careers.

wenson_zhou

以下是引用joysource在2007-10-18 8:01:00的发言：
I disagree that PhD is a so-called lifestyle...Sounds a bit weird...It's just an array of intellectual training that might be helpful to your future careers.

Ha, I think it's ok to call PhD a lifestyle, for the 5-years-time is really a long time in your life and will have meaningful effect on your future life 

cgchengang

Thank you all for your reply. Information from you will be very useful in my decision-making.

I'm thinking of applying for Singapore Universities and I'd be grateful if someone can tell me sth about PhD students'study life there.In the above answers someone mentioned about working hours for professors and I was wondering if someone can advise me about that at Nanyang Technological University.

michaelgoal

I don't know about this Nanyang University. But I can share my experience with you. Hopefully it'll be helpful to you.

I'm doing PhD in Finance in Canada. This is my first year in this program. I've heard a lot about the difficulties about this program before. But I didn't realize how hard it is untill I am actually doing it. For the past a month and a half, I spent almost 15 hours studying everyday, and I still feel that I am behind the schedule.  So if you decide to do PhD, be fully prepared first.

About the rearch assistant, it is actually very good experiece to you. Since you'll expect doing a lot of reseach in the future anyway, just think of it as some practice. And you'll learn a lot of empirical techniques from it.  So there is really nothing to worry about. The only thing is that you have to devote some time on it every week.

 hD is hard to get, PhD in Management is the hardest. Welcome aboard and good luck!

yession

以下是引用michaelgoal在2007-10-20 10:20:00的发言：

I don't know about this Nanyang University. But I can share my experience with you. Hopefully it'll be helpful to you.

I'm doing PhD in Finance in Canada. This is my first year in this program. I've heard a lot about the difficulties about this program before. But I didn't realize how hard it is untill I am actually doing it. For the past a month and a half, I spent almost 15 hours studying everyday, and I still feel that I am behind the schedule.  So if you decide to do PhD, be fully prepared first.

About the rearch assistant, it is actually very good experiece to you. Since you'll expect doing a lot of reseach in the future anyway, just think of it as some practice. And you'll learn a lot of empirical techniques from it.  So there is really nothing to worry about. The only thing is that you have to devote some time on it every week.

 hD is hard to get, PhD in Management is the hardest. Welcome aboard and good luck!

确实不容易，我也是一年级phd，倒没有那么夸张，但是脑力真的很伤，虽然我还有时间睡觉，做饭，运动，但是其他时间每时每刻都在动脑筋想问题。感觉就像是以前竞赛要求的题目，变成日常的功课，每天都要想一些非常抽象的问题。

michaelgoal

以下是引用yession在2007-10-20 10:46:00的发言：

I don't know about this Nanyang University. But I can share my experience with you. Hopefully it'll be helpful to you.

I'm doing PhD in Finance in Canada. This is my first year in this program. I've heard a lot about the difficulties about this program before. But I didn't realize how hard it is untill I am actually doing it. For the past a month and a half, I spent almost 15 hours studying everyday, and I still feel that I am behind the schedule.  So if you decide to do PhD, be fully prepared first.

About the rearch assistant, it is actually very good experiece to you. Since you'll expect doing a lot of reseach in the future anyway, just think of it as some practice. And you'll learn a lot of empirical techniques from it.  So there is really nothing to worry about. The only thing is that you have to devote some time on it every week.

 hD is hard to get, PhD in Management is the hardest. Welcome aboard and good luck!

确实不容易，我也是一年级phd，倒没有那么夸张，但是脑力真的很伤，虽然我还有时间睡觉，做饭，运动，但是其他时间每时每刻都在动脑筋想问题。感觉就像是以前竞赛要求的题目，变成日常的功课，每天都要想一些非常抽象的问题。

Yes, you are right.

But actually, I am not exaggerating, either. My case is kindof special, which makes it even harder. Because I don't have any background in Finance, I need to catch up with a lot of stuff that other students don't have to do. It takes a lot of time.

Anyway, I hope all these pains we suffer today will be paid off in the future. 

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cgchengang

谢谢楼上两位给予的解答!

还想请教一下,对于management（strategy） 方面的PhD,学习过程中对于数学的要求高吗？我本科和硕士阶段都没学过高数，统计方面也只了解最基础的知识，所以对于数学这方面非常的担心，像我这种文科转商科的,是不是到时数学方面相当的够呛啊.不知道如果被录取的话，是不是要自学高等数学等科目呢？