WE ARE HBS CLASS OF 2009 CDERS!

jvwu

发错地方了。

agneszhu2010

Hi, thanks for your patient and valuable help along side. I think you've already started school and could you tell me up to now, how do your percieved HBS as a business school? What are the THREE things you like most about HBS?

以下是引用robinst在2007-9-26 0:19:00的发言：

Three things i like most:

1) I feel very much respected and paid attention to --- the school takes GOOD care of its students in ALL aspects, from study to career, from academic service department to faculties.

2) I learnt that a friend in another top B school needs to pay about usd200 for books for one subject, here we don't pay a single penny for books, cases, and group meals.....I never see any school of this generousity.

3) Students here are very dynamic, flexible, enthusiastic, passionate, friendly, interesting.....by now i haven't met anyone who appears arrogant...which surprises me....

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-9-27 9:29:00的发言：

1. The people.  Fellow students, faculties, and staffs.  The energy level of each, the drive to do the best job that they can, and the willingness to help and share what they have.

2. The opportunities.  Speakers, information sessions, clubs, trips, resources, external networks, the list can go on and on.

3. Learning style.  The case method and learning teams.

eyda_c

who will you name for the best professors or which courses will you choose as the best in leadership and general management at HBS, compared to Michael Porter in strategy?  thanks

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-9-30 11:13:00的发言：

I don't understand what you are trying to find out.  Who we like best could be vastly different from who you like best.  How one professor teaches leadership could be different from how he/she teaches strategy.  What's behind your question?

saphirelucky

HBS每年的essay题目是不是都不一样？我很想知道去年的essay题目是什么(也就是说class of 2009当初申请时遇到的essay问题)，以便和今年做比较。但是搜了很久也没有找到。能给个链接吗？非常感谢～～

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-10-9 12:18:00的发言：
Please check the 6th floor of this posting.

看到了，谢谢！发现2007年essay题目变动比较大，给了申请者选择的权利而不是必须回答规定的题目。不知道这个趋势背后有什么原因没有。因为可以选择，完全可以不选择HBS以往问的经典题目，如career goal。不知校友们有什么看法？？

以下是引用camelhill在2007-10-10 0:42:00的发言：

Choose the one that best matches your background and that you can provide the most effective and fit application.  Even though you don't choose career goal, I would suggest you show your thoughts on career in other essays, but on the other hand, if you have pretty unique career goal or convincing argument on your career, it might be a good idea to write in full career essay. Remember, essays are mirrors of yourself, you don't want to miss your uniqueness in the essays.

谢谢camelhill和yaoyao百忙中回帖。还想请教一个问题：essay中有这样一问：What would you like the MBA Admissions Board to know about your undergraduate academic experience？ 请问有了这个academic experience的限制，是不是就不能谈大学期间的课外活动,e.g.社团，实习之类的，而只能谈学习？？而且只能谈undergraduate阶段？其实我master阶段更有的说，唉。。。谢谢！

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-10-10 22:39:00的发言：

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=13&replyID=2454982&id=264894&skin=0

I would make sure I answer the question.  You can talk about your master's work as an extension of your undergraduate experience but not as a replacement.

"activities that I participated in"你是谈了和学习没有关系的一些课外活动吗？这和academic不矛盾吗？是不是对待HBS的题目不用太抠字眼？总是掌握不好跑题和灵活度之间的balance...

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-10-11 12:47:00的发言：
I think that's part of my academic experience but that's just my personal interpretation.

谢谢各位！！今年HBS essay 中增加了这样一问 'What have you learned from a mistake?' 我理解这个mistake是没有任何限制的?可以是你自己经历的,也可以是别人的? 不知道我这种想法对不对...???

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-1 7:56:00的发言：
Of course you may write about anything that you deem appropriate.  I'm not sure how effective it will be though, without the feedback and reflection process.  The moral of the mistake story isn't about what you learned but how you learn from mistakes.

谢谢 Yaoyao!! 但是你能解释一下 'what you learned from mistakes' 和 'how you learn from mistakes'的区别吗？问题问的难道不是what吗？

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-2 13:24:00的发言：
If you're talking about your own mistake, you'll naturally talk about the process, how you came to the realization (through feedback and self-reflection), what you learned, and how it affected you since.  It presents a full pictures of yourself.  If you're talking about learning from someone else's mistake, it's more nature to jump to the results and discuss the outcome.  At the end, the essays should illustrate who you are.

请教这道题目What is your career vision and why is this choice meaningful to you?  我在回答时，我的career vision 是不是一定要说的很详细,比如说要详细到我要从事eg.能源行业或者说我要做VC/PE？还是可以比较泛泛的谈我的vision？比如说成为优秀的管理者？后面这种答法会不会显得我对自己的career vision 没有思考成熟？其实我现在真的不能对未来构想的那么细．．．

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-5 4:03:00的发言：

Some people know exactly what they would like to do at where by when, some don't.  Everyone has different levels of specificity.   Articulate yours clearly and convincingly and you'll be fine.

1。HBS Essay 的第一问，三个achievement的那个，要求一共600字。具体三件事怎么分配字数是不是可以比较灵活？不一定要严格按照200－200－200的模式？

2。What else would you like the MBA Admissions Board to understand about you？回答这一问要有一个统一的主题呢还是可以零星的把前面几问没来得cover的事例都写上？多谢各位了！！

以下是引用camelhill在2007-12-7 4:03:00的发言：

Q1: no specific requirement on each achievement. Total should be within 600 word limit

Q2: make your own judgement, there's no standard answer to it.

首先祝大家圣诞快乐～ 哈佛经典的三个成就那道题．如果没有展现我生活方面的例子(基本都是和工作有关的），是不是不太好？原本有一个生活的例子，但是朋友帮忙看了后，认为太提trivial，不值得一提，被否定了．．．看着deadline到了，急啊～

以下是引用camelhill在2007-12-26 2:51:00的发言：

I didn't look at your whole package, therefore, I can't make a conclusion whether it's a good idea to add or remove that essay. But I really suggest you talk to more people, and get a holistic view on your package, not on this particular "three-accomplishment" essay. At the end of the day, it's your overall package that matters.

Arragon

各位HBS的师兄师姐们，我拿到了HBS的电话面试，心情非常激动，这是我的Dream School啊。可是听闻HBS的面试是最难的，不知各位师兄师姐是否能帮忙做个Mocking Interview啊？：）回头到HBS请大伙大餐阿^_^  谢谢啦。

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-1 7:51:00的发言：

Congratulations!  Of course we're happy to help, if you could elaborate on your request.  When is your interview?  When are you available?  What specifically are you looking for help on, that only a current HBS student can provide?

Hi Yaoyao,  你和另外两位HBS帅哥在线答疑的时候我也在：）非常高兴收到你的回复。我的Interview 11月18号。为什么我非要找HBS的在校生呢？因为听说HBS的Interview是出名的tough,所以希望HBS在校的各位能针对我的Interview给一些意见和建议。理想的mocking interview时间应该是在11月10-15日之间，这样我还有时间针对建议联系。先谢谢啦。

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-2 14:07:00的发言：
11/12 is a school holiday.  11/13 to 11/16 might work.  Please post some time slots in EST so we can respond based on our individual availability.

Yaoyao, It's soooooo kind of you. Please give me some time options you think is OK. My time is very flexible. Thanks.

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-5 4:07:00的发言：
Ok, what about 3:15-4pm EST 11/12?

...  My dear Yaoyao, do you really want me to get up at 2:30 AM? The time difference between Beijing and Boston is 12 hours! So if you can move it to some time between 8:00 pm to 12pm EST, or 9:00am to 12am EST, that will be perfect for both of us.  Thanks for your consideration and understanding. And thanks for your precious time. I owe you.

以下是引用Arragon在2007-11-13 11:45:00的发言：

Yaoyao，这两天很忙吧？我发了2封信给你都没回音了。。。

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-13 11:59:00的发言：

Sorry!  I did send out the time slots that you requested to the group but no one has responded yet.  It's a busy week.  Recruiting is in full swing and there are a lot of events lined up before Thanksgiving comes around.  Will let you know if I hear back from anyone!

Thanks very much! BTW, I heard that the interview from HBS is quite personalized to the applicant and usually 70% of the questions can not be prepared. Is that right?

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-18 10:26:00的发言：
Sorry, missed your question.  They will review your application detail prior to the interview but I don't know exactly what percentage of the questions you can prepare for.  It's probably different depending on the interviewer and what your application looks like.  Good luck!

哎！写K怎么也写不出感觉。只有HBS的Essay写的有感觉。想想那天面试还是有很多可以提高的地方，来这里跟大家发发牢骚。。。HBS阿！本来是主菜，却第一个端出来。哪里有心思想别的呢？

以下是引用robinst在2007-12-11 1:29:00的发言：

Waiting is much more painful  in deed....Good luck!

Orientalflag

I got HBS telephone interview last week. And hope can receive HBS brothers' insight on interview. Can we keep in touch? 

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-5 3:37:00的发言：

There's nothing you can do after completing the interview.  Just be patient and hope for the best!  Good luck.

Yaoyao,sorry for making you misunstand my status. I just received the invitation for interview and will complete it at the end of Nov. So I am pleased to have your precious advice about HBS interview. Time is flexible for me, so it would be great if you can find a time to communicate with me on line or over phone.Thanks in advance. 

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-5 12:34:00的发言：

Could you post your questions here please so others can also benefit?  BTW, I'm not a HBS brother.  My general recommendations would be: do your homework, know your application, and practice if you can.  Good luck!

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=13&ID=173361&page=1

16、面试经验 & tips

yyuu0124

I am a lawyer working in a top3 local law firm in China and my concentration is IPO, M&A and private placement(eg.P.E). I am just wondering whether HBS admits lawyers in their MBA program? Thanks for your reply!

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-13 14:39:00的发言：
There have been lawyers and law professors in the program.  They will not exclude anyone based on their profession nor will they admit anyone based on their profession.

kathleenfly

I've got HBS interview invitation and set the time on early Dec. It's phone interview with adcom.  Is there any difference between telephone interview and face-to-face interview with alumni? And, will the interviewer review all my application material in advance?  Thanks so much!

以下是引用elims在2007-11-17 1:08:00的发言：
恭喜恭喜

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-17 4:07:00的发言：
Congratulations!  That depends on your comfort level, whether you perform better over the phone or in person.  They will know your application inside-out so be ready for that, =)

uvoice

学校的网站上说，在美国受到master学位的也推荐递交托福成绩，不知道如果没有的话，会对申请有多大的影响哪？是说如果不交的话，希望很小了吗？谢谢回复。

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-21 6:00:00的发言：
It's not required (strongly recommended) so as long as you can demonstrate your ability to communicate in English (through GMAT/essays/recommendations), I won't worry about it.  Good luck!

以下是引用uvoice在2007-11-21 6:22:00的发言：

thanks yaoyao!!!

You're very welcome, =)

saphirelucky

问个比较弱的问题。只要是在第2轮deadline之前提交的申请，申请人application被review是不是不分先后？与我提交的时间无关？如果review有先后的话，交的太晚，会不会interview offer发完了？Thanks a lot!!

以下是引用camelhill在2007-10-24 0:35:00的发言：

The timing of submission doesn't make any difference as long as you submitted before deadline; HBS won't review earlier until after the deadline

烦劳各位几个网上填表问题．多谢！！～～

１．Education那部分要求填写中学信息，从初中还是高中填起？
２．Estimated rank among peers　是指你在班里还是系里的排名？是自己大概估计一下吗？
３．Extracurricular Activities是指在大学校内发生的事情而Part time Employment是指校外的活动，如暑期的兼职？
４．Extracurricular Activities中还有一项叫all extracurricular activities since college，是填community service之类的东西吗？还有别的可填吗？

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-11-28 15:40:00的发言：

1. I believe it said "high school" in our applications.  You should check with admissions office if it's unclear.

2. You don't have to make one up if there's no official ranking.  In fact, unless they explictly state that they would like an estimate, I won't provide one that could be inaccurate.

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracurricular

Extracurricular activities are activities performed by students that fall outside the realm of the normal curriculum of school or university education... Such activities are generally voluntary as opposed to mandatory, non-paying, tend to be Athletics, social, and philanthropic as opposed to scholastic, and involve others of the same age.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part_time 

A part-time job carries less hours per week than a full-time job, and usually pays less than a full-time job.

I think any voluntary project that you did outside of your class work counts.  Any professional paid projects where you worked less than 40 hours a week would count towards a part-time job.

4. It could include any activity outside of your normal job duties.

1. Intended Post-MBA industry and function 是必填的吗?学校为什么要这个信息?
2.Full time employment中你过去的每一份工作都要求填写 Your ResponsibilitiesKey Accomplishments, Most Significant Challenge,  怎么感觉跟回答essay一样啊?~~~

以下是引用camelhill在2007-12-7 4:04:00的发言：

Make your own judgement, that's all I can say.

因为篇幅限制,在essay中没法／来不及表现的经历,填到online application form中,会受到同样重视吗? 对申请表中的信息adcom是不是只会比较粗略的看？不会像对待essay那样？　谢谢～～

以下是引用robinst在2007-12-10 9:28:00的发言：

Essay is just one piece of the whole package. Every detail matters in your application package. However, be meaningful about the info you fill in ---- Quantity doesn't mean quality.

谢谢robinst和yaoyao99两位的意见，很中肯，我也希望自己能多用judgment．但还有个问题请教.  公司的Annual Revenue，你自己的Salary Information这都是很sensitive的信息，不填有负面影响吗？特别是前者，有些公司也不愿意让下面的员工知道．

以下是引用camelhill在2007-12-17 0:35:00的发言：

Annual Revenue doesn't have to be exact number, a rough number will be okay, for example if your company generates 361.345Mn USD annually, it's perfectly fine to say 300Mn or 400Mn

I suggest you fill in your salary info, it's an important one, don't put an inaccurate number. Trust me, HBS will keep those information confidential, your salary information is safe here.

以下是引用yaoyao99在2007-12-17 3:26:00的发言：
If it's a public company, everyone should know it.  If it's a private one and you truly have no idea, just say not available.