Does Stanford ding people with the same letter or with several versions

asdf116699

Does Stanford ding people with the same letter or with several versions. to know this may help in furthur decisions of us.

the following is mine(yes, i was just dinged):

Dear xxx:

Thank you for applying to the Stanford Graduate School of Business. We have completed the review of applicants to the Master of Business Administration Program, and I am sorry that we cannot offer you admission to the MBA Class of 2009.

We evaluated your application along three dimensions: (1) intellectual vitality; (2) demonstrated leadership potential; and (3) personal qualities and contributions. We assessed the overall quality of your written application, including the essays and letters of reference.

As we explain in our literature, the evaluation process is not one in which we merely separate out those candidates with weaknesses and admit all the rest. Were we to do that, we would have a class several times its intended size. We carefully evaluate each individual file, and then review it in the context of the entire applicant pool. In an effort to create an engaging student community, we select those applicants who, collectively, represent a breadth of background, talent, and experience.

Please know that we make admission decisions carefully, sincerely, and humanely. Our deliberations are neither quick nor effortless, and many involve difficult choices. We typically receive more than 5,000 applications for our class of 360 students. Because there are many more qualified and deserving candidates than places available in the class, there is necessarily a subjective element to the evaluation process. This is why there rarely are precise reasons for an applicant's denial. The final results simply reflect our best efforts.

I am sorry that I could not bring you better news, especially since we know that you have invested considerable time and effort in your application. We appreciate your interest in the Stanford Graduate School of Business, and thank you for the privilege of reading your application.

Sincerely,



Derrick Bolton
Assistant Dean and Director of MBA Admissions
Stanford MBA '98

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MBA Application Process, 2006-2007
Frequently Asked Questions
                

Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. We hope that this supplemental information will provide you with context for better understanding the selection process. We appreciate your interest in the Stanford MBA Program, and we wish you the best in your academic and professional pursuits.

Can I receive feedback on my application?

As we mention in our application materials, we do not offer feedback opportunities on your written application. Frequently, candidates who are not offered admission assume that there must be deficiencies or faults in their applications. The reality of highly selective admission is that there are more qualified and deserving applicants than spaces available. It is precisely because most applicants are well-qualified for the Stanford MBA Program that there is rarely a clear-cut or 揻ixable?reason for a candidate抯 denial. By the same token, the reasons why some applicants stand out more than others are not easily categorized, since that excellence itself does not come in uniform dimensions.

Participating in a selection process with a very low admission rate means that there are factors affecting the ultimate decision on your candidacy over which you have no control (e.g., the nature of all other applications). Please do not feel responsible for factors you cannot affect.

Can you explain how you reached your decisions?
                

We realize that, from your perspective, the admission process may seem arbitrary: many qualified candidates with impressive achievements and professional potential are not admitted. Please remember that each file is evaluated in the context of the entire applicant pool. The only way to understand why we make the decisions we do would be to read the thousands of other applications we receive; this alone would provide you with the perspective required to understand the rationale behind each admission decision.

We understand the limitations of our application process. We acknowledge that it may not always capture, to the fullest extent, the personality and potential of each candidate. We work hard to do the best job possible given these limitations. We are guided in our actions by our knowledge that there is a person behind each application, and we recognize the duty of care that we owe to each applicant. Please understand that our decisions are neither capricious nor random, and reflect our best efforts.

How close was I? Is there an appeal process?
                

We do not rank candidates for admission. Since our decisions are based both on the strength of an individual application and on its merits relative to the rest of the applicant pool, each decision is final.

May I be added to the waitlist?
                

We already have selected a limited group of candidates for the waitlist, and we will not add names to it. Each admission decision is final.

I was not invited to interview. Did that impact your evaluation of my application?
                

We do not use the interviews as a 揻irst screen?for applications. After a thorough review of the application by the Committee on Admissions, some candidates are selected for the final step in the admissions process ~ the interview. The interview alone, however, is rarely the dispositive factor in evaluating a candidate.

If I improve my standardized test scores and/or get more work experience, will this compensate for my undergraduate academic performance?
                

Although strength in one area can sometimes compensate for weaknesses in others, we tend to favor candidates with strengths in as many areas as possible. For every candidate with an uneven profile, there are many others with a balanced profile of excellence in all areas that we consider in evaluating the application.

Do you have any advice for my re-application?
                

If you wish to submit another application to the Stanford Graduate School of Business, we recommend that you visit the Admission section of the MBA Program website (www.gsb.stanford.edu/mba) for more information on admission criteria. These criteria are the lens through which we evaluate all applications and, when thoughtfully considered, may offer you some insight on how to improve your re-application.

At the same time, it is important to understand that you cannot control the outcome of your application. While we would welcome your re-application to the Stanford Graduate School of Business, you may wish to accept an offer of admission at another school, since there is no guarantee of admission as a reapplicant. Enrolling in another program would allow you to begin working immediately toward your life and career goals.

robinst

almost the same...except that in my ding they did mention the interview feedback coz i was interviewed...and blah blah...

asdf116699

I comprehend the end of the letter as encouraging people to take other offers. But if they have other versions which contains no such words, it means something.

i mean, maybe because i am so old that they are not willing if I reapply.

feexo

Hey, asdf116699, I got the same version as yours. As for the last paragraph, I'd take it as an indirect way of letting us know that "You will be fooled if you wait on another year by foregoing another offer, 'coz you know what, we are not big fan of re-applicants."

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camelhill

to feexo, if u really love this school, and show your improvement, there's indeed a chance of getting in as a re-applicant.

I knew one re-applicant who got in Stanford this year

feexo

To Camelhill, thanks for the suggestion. I was not being bitter (although it may sound so, ) about being rejected by Stanford, after all I anticipated it would be a long shot before I started my application.

I'm sure there are success stories about reappliants getting into Stanford, and best of the luck to S reapplicants. As for me, I think I'd follow the suggestion in the ding letter, and pack for another school in the east coast. Maybe when I get a chance to 进城 from rural NH, I can catch up with you HBS guys in Boston sometime?  

demon_hunter

The same. I don't think it indicate anything special.

asdf116699

it is clear now, the bottom part of the letter means nothing and you will not at a disadvantage if you re-apply, at least according to the newsletter i received from stanford yesterday.

excerpt as follows:

If you are not accepted to the Stanford MBA Program, you are welcome to reapply in another application year. Having applied in a previous year is not considered a negative factor in your candidacy; to the contrary, a reapplication can demonstrate persistence and resilience. Each year we offer admission to reapplicants who present a strong, compelling application in the context of the new applicant pool. We encourage you to give yourself a fresh start when you approach your reapplication, reassessing your essays and determining if other recommenders may provide a more insightful and thorough perspective. All reapplicants are required to resend valid test scores and complete a new application, including new academic transcripts, essays, reference letters, employment history, and application fee. The admission decision will be based upon the new application materials received rather than previously submitted materials.