二流美国法学院JD毕业就业前景

limpidlyric

以下是引用mello在2007-3-28 10:06:00的发言：

这种事一方面是学校出身，更多的是你读jd时的学习成绩和你的工作能力。不是说你从t6出来就一定保证能进biglaw。尤其对于外国人来说，难度更大。排名靠后的也不见得拿不到好的工作offer。这种例子比比皆是。

An exception always exist, but it is not 比比皆是.  The importance of law school rank and the domination of top law school new graduates in biglaw firm is a undisputed but formidable and tragically true fact in current american legal industry.  The majority of graduates from top law schools go to biglaw firm while only a few spots unfilled by them remain open for only 10% top law students in the rest 170 law schools.  Like funnytiger has said, it is much more harder to beat the 90% American students in your class at a non-top law school than to beat 20% American students in a top law school. Those american students with lower lsat score in 2nd or 3rd tier law schools are not much less comeptent than those who are high lsat achiever in top law school. Moreover, they are working more fiercely to compete for a good job. This is especially true to our chinese jds who come directly from China with no advantage of language.

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polyester

楼主要不试试找inhouse？另外今年回国工作的机会也很好，我认识好几个LLM回国收入都很不错。（前几年好像就不怎么样。）

mello

以下是引用limpidlyric在2007-3-28 11:40:00的发言：

An exception always exist, but it is not 比比皆是.  The importance of law school rank and the domination of top law school new graduates in biglaw firm is a undisputed but formidable and tragically true fact in current american legal industry.  The majority of graduates from top law schools go to biglaw firm while only a few spots unfilled by them remain open for only 10% top law students in the rest 170 law schools.  Like funnytiger has said, it is much more harder to beat the 90% American students in your class at a non-top law school than to beat 20% American students in a top law school. Those american students with lower lsat score in 2nd or 3rd tier law schools are not much less comeptent than those who are high lsat achiever in top law school. Moreover, they are working more fiercely to compete for a good job. This is especially true to our chinese jds who come directly from China with no advantage of language.

假设你说话的对象是美国法学生，这确实是事实。不过你针对的是中国留学生。他们的就业情况和美国法学院毕业生完全是两码事。可以这么说，就算你是哈佛法学院毕业的，别说biglaw，哪怕是一般的小律所，如果没有中国业务的话，也基本不可能雇佣你。反之，哪怕是比较靠后的法学院毕业的，但是你拥有国内律师资格且之前的国内律师经验丰富，英语中文运用自如，且大学成绩良好。biglaw也甚至会优于其它美国法学院毕业生而雇用你。

如你所说，凡事都有例外，我相信也有中国人曾经被美国律所雇用而完全从事美国本土业务，尽管我没听说过。不过要清楚地是，中国留学生去美国读法律既有劣势，也有强大的优势，无论你去t6还是t14，还是t20，甚至t50。当然，太靠后了机会确实会相对少些。

funnytiger

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秋天的虫子

以下是引用mello在2007-3-28 22:15:00的发言：

假设你说话的对象是美国法学生，这确实是事实。不过你针对的是中国留学生。他们的就业情况和美国法学院毕业生完全是两码事。可以这么说，就算你是哈佛法学院毕业的，别说biglaw，哪怕是一般的小律所，如果没有中国业务的话，也基本不可能雇佣你。反之，哪怕是比较靠后的法学院毕业的，但是你拥有国内律师资格且之前的国内律师经验丰富，英语中文运用自如，且大学成绩良好。biglaw也甚至会优于其它美国法学院毕业生而雇用你。

如你所说，凡事都有例外，我相信也有中国人曾经被美国律所雇用而完全从事美国本土业务，尽管我没听说过。不过要清楚地是，中国留学生去美国读法律既有劣势，也有强大的优势，无论你去t6还是t14，还是t20，甚至t50。当然，太靠后了机会确实会相对少些。

yes and no

funnytiger

以下是引用limpidlyric在2007-3-28 8:38:00的发言：

回funnytiger: 至今没有着落，所以在考虑后路。谢谢你的关心！ 其实一直在很努力地寻求机会，但始终还没有转机。 学校排名和第一年的成绩太重要了。我这两项都不占优势。我是个做事慢热型的人，法学院快捷的步骤不适合我深入的思考学习方式，我做过测试，是INTJ的类型，所以目前的就业竞争对我不利。不过我是个不光为金钱学法律的人，也许这是我念法学院唯一永不变质的价值。

那你国内的INTERN机会联系了吗？

实在没有着落， 可以看看这个

http://www.scu.edu/law/international/summer_abroad.html

应该是外校学生也收的

zindan

虎兄真是热心人啊

limpidlyric

以下是引用funnytiger在2007-3-29 3:22:00的发言：

那你国内的INTERN机会联系了吗？

实在没有着落， 可以看看这个

http://www.scu.edu/law/international/summer_abroad.html

应该是外校学生也收的

Thanks so much to funnytiger!  It seems to me that those summer abroad is like summer study abroad programs and have to pay tuition. My school has some externship and internships for credits without additional fees, so I might take them. But thank you!

chicago001

秋天的虫子，你这里也用这个头像啊。

况天佑

呵呵，实力是王道~~！