也谈MICHIGAN与DUKE

ddtt

遇到这两个学校就扔硬币吧

哪个学校在任一方面都没比另一个好到可以马上作出选择.

哈哈,当然都是好学校.

cheeyong

怎么没有DUKE的人出来说话？

eternalwind

以下是引用cheeyong在2007-3-13 14:57:00的发言：
怎么没有DUKE的人出来说话？

NAUTIC估计在过春假呢

robinst

以下是引用cheeyong在2007-3-13 14:57:00的发言：
怎么没有DUKE的人出来说话？

 

典型性唯恐天下不乱综合症患者．．．

 

kangning

看到这样的评语我很吃惊, 相信了解MICHIGAN的人会用很多方式来形容我们的MBA PROGRAM, 有好肯定也有坏, 但基本上不大会有人用ARROGANT来形容MICHIGAN. 
        能不能举举具体例子, 这样我们也可以相学校反映, 有则改之, 无则嘉勉.

???
谁说的，太有才了

zuzusisi

BW forum上看到的，看来老美也在考虑Ross or Fuqua...

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Hello all:

I think that I may have some good insights into this discussion, as I chose to come to Fuqua over Ross last year.  Further, I did my undergraduate work at Michigan, and my sister attended Ross. 

I believe that in most of the important categories, Duke and Michigan are pretty much a wash.  The career services here at Duke have been outstanding, and there has not been a single desirable company out there who has not recruited in some form or fashion here at Fuqua.  I have spoken to a number of Ross students while at second round interviews at company locations or at company sell days, and in our comparison of recruiting stories, it appears that we are playing the same game, so to speak.

In terms of the difference between a private a public institution, I think that one very important distinction to make is that Duke has a student population in the neighborhood of 7 or 8,000 students, while the Michigan student body approaches 5 times that.  As an undergad, I enjoyed all the hustle and bustle, but then again, I was 19 years old and partied quite a bit on the weekends.  As a graduate student in a very demanding MBA program, I like the size of the Duke community as a whole.

Leading into Lifestyle/People/Neighborhoods, I feel as though Michigan is very much a midwestern college town.  Living expenses are pretty high for such a small city, and there is a lot going on.  Durham, on the other hand, is exceptionally affordable, and the campus is just that, a campus.  Parking isn't quite the issue that it is in Ann Arbor.  While we have good restaurants to frequent, and a handful of good bars, it's a bit quieter here than in Ann Arbor.  And, believe it or not, I really value that, as I am neck deep in a rigorous MBA program, and not really in need of a ton of extra distractions (namely, an undergraduate population of 25,000 students).  North Carolina absolutely detroys Michigan in the weather debate...it is February 12th as a write this and we saw a high temperature of 61 degrees today, with a glorious sunny sky (I spent an hour outside reading).  And, on that note, as someone who spent 25 years of my life in Michigan, I can attest that it is never the cold that really does you in, it is the 60+ days in a row of no sunshine from January 10-March 10.

As far as facilities go, I think both schools have great facilities that are only getting better.  Our campus here at Fuqua is outstanding, and we are in the process of building a gigantic addition which will only improve what I considered to be the best facilities I saw while visiting business schools.  That said, Michigan's facilities are great as well.

Finally, and most importantly, the quality of the student body.  This, in the end, is why I chose Duke over Michigan.  I have never been around a more dynamic, diverse and interesting group of people as I have here at Fuqua.  I could sense the culture of this place when I was a prospective student, and am reminded daily of why I made such a wise decision to come here.  There is something special about a Fuqua student, we all have such interesting backgrounds and strories.  I know that the Ross students are great as well, but I would challenge you to come to both sell weekends and check it out for yourself. 

Also, I think that in addition to what I have mentioned, one of the biggest draws of coming to Duke is that this is a school where you will be able to make a tremendous impact.  I have been involved in helping to shape the future of this institution, and am extremely happy to be part of a school where the students are leaders within the organization.  Some of the best "STAR" stories I have told in interviews that have resulted in job offers for me have been stories about my leadership experiences here at Fuqua.

Best of luck on your decision.  I know I struggled for weeks with my own, but am extremely glad I made the choice I did.

Charles

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[此贴子已经被作者于2007-3-13 17:22:34编辑过]

ddtt

嗯，跟我的感觉一样

我总觉得DUKE比ROSS好玩一点，哈哈

携隐

BW说的很对啦，两所学校各有长处，最重要还是要感受哪个student body更吸引你。最好跟两边学校的人多聊聊。不过，写的人是Michigan Under的，under跟graduate的感受是很不同的，尤其是B-school，跟哪个school的感受都不一样。我来说说我对BW提到的这些方面的感受吧。

Living expense。对于AA这样的小镇来说，真的算挺高的。不过相比大城市，相信还是比较适中的吧，加上Ross的学费其实在所有学校里面算低的（top 10里面差不多是最低的了）。说实话我并不觉得生活成本高。最近正在记账，想给新同学做参考。等一个月结束我可以算一下我的真实支出。

AA非常舒适，什么都有，也很方便。学生很多，整个小镇基本就是大学城，不过campus的感觉并不强烈，中校区附近就是downtown。北校区应该比较像campus。我比较喜欢AA的是这里的人都非常的nice和friendly（70％都是faculty或students嘛），而且！所有的车子永远都会让我们先过路，无论是在路中间，还是在路口。这点让我特别感觉到学生的特权，哈哈。就算离开AA，方圆白里基本还是笼罩在Ｕmich的影响下。不知道其他同学怎么想，我个人真的还满享受身为Ｕmich学生生活在Ｕmich社区这种感觉。连开车一个小时去逛Mall，seller会笑着问我们“放假啦？”。随处可见Ｕmich标志的各种物品。跟任何人都可以说一句“Go Blue!” 。学校的T-shirt印着各个不同的学院，看着特别亲切。可以买到Michigan的各类衣服，帽子，围巾，手套......还有狗狗的衣服，呵呵。

Ｕmich是比较有名的运动学校。不仅仅是football，各项比赛在这里都如火如荼，小镇的居民也比较享受这种生活。空气里永远洋溢maize and blue。每到有比赛的日子，大家穿上一样的衣服去看比赛，那种感觉真是非常好啊。还有，Michigan的fight song非常有名，非常好听，超级喜欢。

校园最后要提的是新大楼。不多说了。从今年开始的学生都可以享受到了。我们啥都没有，郁闷啊。呵呵。

关于天气，我知道很多under都很讨厌Michigan的冬天，因为他们在这里至少呆4年啊，哈哈。至于我们，因为只呆2年的缘故，我倒并不介意Michigan的冬天，相反，我很喜欢这种四季分明的地方。空气很干净，雪都是晶莹的，下雪也都是美景。今年有一个星期，温度很低，但是空气太干净，雨水没有结核，下不成雪，下的雨一落到各种东西上就马上开始结冰，等到雨停的时候，整个AA变成一座水晶宫，所有的树外面都套上了厚厚一层透明的冰，很多带红色小果子的树，冰里套着红色，非常漂亮。太阳一出来，照在冰上，五彩斑斓，走在路上都觉得目眩神迷，太美了！尤其是校园里，看过去简直像童话世界。

因为AA冬天长，作为弥补，这里的夏天跟秋天简直amazing。夏天是狂欢的季节，太阳每天6点起床，10点才下山，那感觉真是太妙了。到处绿意葱葱（Ann Arbor是树木覆盖率最高的城市之一，Arbor的意思其实就是树阴）。真个夏天不停有各种Festival。每天晚上中校区的草地上都聚集着人群，享受每天不同的乐队表演和露天电影。艺术展，车展更是层出不穷。太阳下山以后到露天酒吧喝酒聊天，人生一大乐事。夏天天气非常好，一点都不热，而且晴天居多，雨也不少，不过都是10分钟的那种。每到下雨，直接在屋檐下站一会，太阳很快又会出来了。从来没用到过雨伞。

秋天树木开始变色，整个AA被各种各样的颜色点缀。太漂亮了！语说无凭，附我拍的照片为证，呵呵（PDF打包成rar）。

eeyupyup

i am sure xieyin and jkmbe will be on the school brocheur next year.

hahahhaha

携隐

照片太大传不上来...

热烈期盼Duke的同学也来介绍一下Duke。其实Duke有很多卖点的。气候好，校园美，学生活动多，整体body偏年轻比较有趣，而且学校本身也比较年轻。各个方面跟Ross都各有长短。不知道Duke有没有地方可以beat MAP。