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我和LSE师兄的对话(经当事人授权)

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楼主
发表于 2006-4-25 23:41:00 | 只看该作者

我和LSE师兄的对话(经当事人授权)

鉴于对LSE的AF的项目非议很多,也出于帮正处于痛苦选择(LSE VS 美国其他学校)中的CDers(包括我)一个比较好的借鉴,同时也作为一个LSEer对于LSE的声誉的维护(或者客观描述),经当事人的授权,帖出以下我与一个LSE FE现在在读的师兄的MSN对话
沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-25 23:43:00 | 只看该作者

(全文如下,省略某些不适合帖出的东东,AF和FE的同学均可参考)


teven--add oil 说:


Hi, do you get the offer of LSE?


yuanmeng 说:


yes, Accounting and Finance


Steven--add oil 说:


haha, that's why you add my msn


yuanmeng 说:


en, I think you are in Finance and Economics?


Steven--add oil 说:


yes


yuanmeng 说:


so, half shi xiong, could you give me some intenal information?


Steven--add oil 说:


you can type chinese, as i am using LSE's comupter, i can not type chinese


Steven--add oil 说:


what's your questions, if i can answer


yuanmeng 说:


啊~


yuanmeng 说:


恩 AF和FE是不是经常在一起上选修课?


Steven--add oil 说:


no actually


Steven--add oil 说:


AF and FE are different,


yuanmeng 说:


看到两个项目选修课程基本上是AF》FE


Steven--add oil 说:


They both have the 'Finance', but the content is totally different


Steven--add oil 说:


yes, FE has less options because the 3 core courses are very difficult for FE


yuanmeng 说:


就是说选修课即使一样 内容也不一样


Steven--add oil 说:


we can only choose 2 options while i think AF can choose much more


yuanmeng 说:


FE数学求到底有多高啊


Steven--add oil 说:


the options are all the same, but they are  not the focus of the courses


Steven--add oil 说:


FE is also the first year's PHD in Finance's course


yuanmeng 说:


明白  主要是核心课不同


Steven--add oil 说:


it uses stochastic mathematics all the time


yuanmeng 说:


随机微积分?


yuanmeng 说:


随机过程?


Steven--add oil 说:


the requirement is same as the Master in Mathematics, i think


Steven--add oil 说:


yes, stochastic process


yuanmeng 说:


那师兄本科是学什么


Steven--add oil 说:


economics


yuanmeng 说:


是应届毕业就直接去吗


Steven--add oil 说:


most of the classmates' blackground in FE are economics, engineering


Steven--add oil 说:


no, i worked for 2 years before i came here


yuanmeng 说:


这样啊。。。那么你了解多少LSE AF呢


Steven--add oil 说:


it's good enough for you to seek a good job in UK, AF


Steven--add oil 说:


and much less requirement in mathematics, but of couse, still have little requiremnet


yuanmeng 说:


应该是不怎么针对中国应届本科毕业生+LSE AF吧


Steven--add oil 说:


AF is more practical and FE is much more theory,


yuanmeng 说:


是research 还是 taught?


Steven--add oil 说:


i was research and now a taught


yuanmeng 说:


???转


Steven--add oil 说:


yes


yuanmeng 说:


WHY


Steven--add oil 说:


no interest to take a PHD any more


Steven--add oil 说:


if i want some days, i can still come back


yuanmeng 说:


这样啊~~准备回国


Steven--add oil 说:


no, want to seek a job here


Steven--add oil 说:


whick university are you in?


yuanmeng 说:


然后就一直定居在英国


yuanmeng 说:


xmu


Steven--add oil 说:


now it's my turn to ask


Steven--add oil 说:


haha


Steven--add oil 说:


o, great


yuanmeng 说:


怎么


Steven--add oil 说:


good in accounting


Steven--add oil 说:


i worked at PWC before i came here


yuanmeng 说:


可惜偶不是学会计


yuanmeng 说:


在此之前


Steven--add oil 说:


AF is a top preogram in Europe, has very good reputation


Steven--add oil 说:


if you can afford the expenses and really have interest to study outside, come.


yuanmeng 说:


谢谢师兄对AF夸奖 但AF在国内非议很多 这也是WHY还在它和美国之间犹豫


yuanmeng 说:


是不是真interest in studying outside,目前是 不知到那边是不是。。。。。


Steven--add oil 说:


what's the discussion?


Steven--add oil 说:


i mean what's the Fei Yi?


yuanmeng 说:


多 特别中国多  大课 一年短 毕业回国也找不找什么工作


yuanmeng 说:


对中国人多没什么意见 现在哪中国人少


Steven--add oil 说:


yes, so many people, 140 and about 40 chinese


Steven--add oil 说:


lse is the least , i think


Steven--add oil 说:


haha


Steven--add oil 说:


in Manchester, Bath or orther second class university, 80% is  chinese


yuanmeng 说:


汗先。。。。。。。听说148人中48个人中国


yuanmeng 说:


想LSE也应该是相对少


Steven--add oil 说:


yes,


Steven--add oil 说:


but if you want to have a further study in Finance or Economics, AF is not qualified enough


Steven--add oil 说:


only FE or MSc in Economics can apply the phd program


yuanmeng 说:


恩 也听说 是个类似本科最后一年课程


Steven--add oil 说:


no really, but AF is focusing on career, more practical


yuanmeng 说:


意思是只有这两个项目可以申请LSE本专业PHD


Steven--add oil 说:


not theory enough, It's NOT the last year of undergraduate!


Steven--add oil 说:


which genius told you that AF is similar with last year's undergraduate?


yuanmeng 说:


别激动啊~师兄  现在CD上说AF什么都有。。。。


Steven--add oil 说:


it's similar with the 2 or 3 year's phd in accounting in China. actually


Steven--add oil 说:


。。。(省略不合适的感叹句)


yuanmeng 说:


这么牛~~~那这个项目毕业后能申请别学校PHD吗


Steven--add oil 说:


but it's ok, i am FE. Not AF,


Steven--add oil 说:


but i know AF is also challenging for the students


yuanmeng 说:


FE是被CDer广泛赞誉  师兄 宽心


Steven--add oil 说:


For AF? i am not sure. But for FE or Economics, yes, we can apply the top 10 in US


Steven--add oil 说:


(省略感叹词)


yuanmeng 说:


说AF challenging, 能说说具体点吗


Steven--add oil 说:


most of the academic path in Finance or Economics is that get a master in Economics or Finance in LSE, Cam, Oxford and then get the PHD in top US school


Steven--add oil 说:


that's what many professors in US and UK did


yuanmeng 说:


也听说了  那么能第二年再读个FE吗 LSE能给钱吗


Steven--add oil 说:


no


yuanmeng 说:


否定是哪个?


yuanmeng 说:


给钱那个?


Steven--add oil 说:


FE alomost have no sponsor


Steven--add oil 说:


you have to pay yourself


yuanmeng 说:


那能不能从AF转到FE?


Steven--add oil 说:


AF is similar the one year's MBA in accounting, i think


yuanmeng 说:


应该是不能吧?


Steven--add oil 说:


no, you can not


Steven--add oil 说:


FE begins at Sep.


Steven--add oil 说:


but AF begins at Oct. formally


yuanmeng 说:


对 听说有先修数学课


Steven--add oil 说:


your summer school is exclusive


yuanmeng 说:


今年偶不得不去上SUMMER SCHOOL~~7。3号就开始啊~~~~~~~~~~~~


Steven--add oil 说:


all the AF have to attend the summer school, management accounting


yuanmeng 说:


对啊  不过还是有些不用上


Steven--add oil 说:


130 out of 140 have to attend


yuanmeng 说:


那上完SUMMER SCHOOL干吗呢?离开学还早呢


Steven--add oil 说:


it's up to you


yuanmeng 说:


还有啊 师兄 是不是AF都是上100多大课啊听课效率会不会很低


Steven--add oil 说:


that's the lecture we call.


and after the lecture, there is a class for you to discuss


Steven--add oil 说:


for the class, maybe there are 15 people


yuanmeng 说:


这个是什么意思瓦


yuanmeng 说:


先大家一窝蜂听讲座 再小组讨论 老师干什么呢


Steven--add oil 说:


it means for wach Lecture, 100 people, there are classes for 15 people in the lecture afterward


Steven--add oil 说:


both lecture and class have teachers.


Steven--add oil 说:


lecture tells you the theory and class teach you how to use the theory


Steven--add oil 说:


it's different with china


yuanmeng 说:


这么COOL啊~~~~~~~~~~~~那么如果一个CLASS只有大约15 老师们怎么办呢


yuanmeng 说:


这样同时会有几个class 啊


Steven--add oil 说:


There are 8-9 classes for ONE lecture,


Steven--add oil 说:


but of course, in different time,


yuanmeng 说:


这样  就是尽量保证小班上课教学质量?


Steven--add oil 说:


usually 3 days after the lecture, it lets  you have time to review and finish the homework for the class


Steven--add oil 说:


i am going to meet my teacher


yuanmeng 说:


啊 师兄去忙吧


yuanmeng 说:


虽然还有多问题呢


yuanmeng 说:


去做事情吧


Steven--add oil 说:


5 more minutes


yuanmeng 说:


是还可以说5分钟还是离开5分钟


Steven--add oil 说:


we can chat for more 5 minutes and then i will leave


yuanmeng 说:



yuanmeng 说:


那么师兄每天睡眠充足吗睡几个小时?


Steven--add oil 说:


you should paste an articls in CD to re-correct the people's concept there


Steven--add oil 说:


6-7hours


yuanmeng 说:


压力大吗?特别是刚到时候


Steven--add oil 说:


huge huge huge pressure all the time


yuanmeng 说:


会 感觉C D上对AF比较那个


yuanmeng 说:


这么恐怖~~~~~


Steven--add oil 说:


when the exams come, i have to study 16 hours everyday


Steven--add oil 说:


no time to play or have fun,


yuanmeng 说:


不是只有最后才考试


yuanmeng 说:


假期有去旅游吗


Steven--add oil 说:


you must know this


Steven--add oil 说:


no,


yuanmeng 说:


那么                     你 。。。。。。。快乐吗


Steven--add oil 说:


i spent all my holidays to study, everyone is same, the white, the yellow


yuanmeng 说:


就是说经常考试罗


yuanmeng 说:


一个私人化问题  觉得LSE怎样


Steven--add oil 说:


you must give up something in order to get something. it's the world class university and you must pay the world class effect, of course, also  the tuition,


Steven--add oil 说:


world class university in economics, Finance and accounting


teven--add oil 说:


LSE has a very good reputation among US's top universities


yuanmeng 说:


现在只担心我去那够不够资格


Steven--add oil 说:


i think AF is ok for you


Steven--add oil 说:


but i don't recommend FE,


Steven--add oil 说:


too challenging


yuanmeng 说:


恩  谢谢师兄鼓励


Steven--add oil 说:


ok, i am leaving, bye


Steven--add oil 说:


good luck for you


yuanmeng 说:


把对话贴在CD上可以吗


Steven--add oil 说:


sure, i don't care, bye


Steven--add oil 说:


but help me to correct my typo first


Steven--add oil 说:


haha , thanks


yuanmeng 说:



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板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-25 23:46:00 | 只看该作者

同学们尽可以来拍砖,有问题我可以再帮着问下,还有其他的prospective lse AFer or FEer也可以贡献自己知道的关于这两个项目和LSE的情况嘛~~~


我致力于解决信息不对称问题.......

地板
发表于 2006-4-26 00:08:00 | 只看该作者
应该表扬!赞~!
5#
发表于 2006-4-26 00:32:00 | 只看该作者

好贴~顶~

6#
 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-26 00:59:00 | 只看该作者

嘿嘿,问题比较多且杂,回答也不是一一对称,大家将就着看啦.筒子们畅所欲言啊

7#
发表于 2006-4-26 08:56:00 | 只看该作者

贡献贡献

8#
发表于 2006-4-26 09:26:00 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼主的热心
9#
发表于 2006-4-26 09:36:00 | 只看该作者
原来不是说FE适合想去IB工作的人吗?怎么是通向phd之路了?
10#
发表于 2006-4-26 09:43:00 | 只看该作者

so nice

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