惭愧,大龄有志青年发言,谢谢回帖.谢谢帮助.

superoldman

没想到在我的贴下有这么精美的回帖,不论是说理还是文理.真不应该埋没了.

关于年龄与EMBA或者是MBA的论述很是入理.

虽然对于why MBA由于我的情况不是很清楚,所以可以作为参考外.

about superold 的论述确实含义隽永.

从文才说,真不敢相信这是只对这个贴的随意回帖,如此确实是,那只能是高山仰止了.

再谢谢weiwei2004.

无缘的情

都认为top10好，其实找一个适合你的最好，在美国这里的人很少有知道真正top20的学校。

gonghao

我认为楼主还是1～10挑两个；10～20挑两个；20～50挑两个

只要是自己想去的，都能试试，如果楼主不愿去，大家再怎么推荐，楼主还是不会去的

对吧：）

gonghao

weiwei2004的文章是要赞一个的；但是：）......

在which school的问题上，没有给出楼主所要的具体的学校名称，但是她的思路和前面各位的意思是一样的，只要楼主很想去，先列一个LIST出来，大约20个学校，覆盖各各层次，然后给他们的admission office写信，看看哪些学校对你的年龄不大感冒，哪些学校有丰富的奖学金，在这过程中淘汰掉一些，留下那些对楼主这样申请者没有明确否定态度的学校。然后07年申请R1～～～～

要是每个学校都告诉你“我们欢迎任何人申请我们的学校”，那么楼主就根据自己的喜好，地点，及毕业后想从事和可能出现的改变楼主自己在读了两年后工作性质情况的需要，选择未来的行业，推出自己比较FIT的学校......只能这样了

以上的前提是：楼主必须在美国读MBA

jade_lee

Superoldman,

I would like to share with you my thoughts or experences in the application process.

1 Why MBA

As you said that your goal for MBA is to expand your vision and international expereince, MBA in US definately suits the end.  

2 Age is a problem?

Sure, especially in the top 10 schools because of the fierce competition. I'll bet that you will get an opposite view from any admission officers because they don't want to be regarded as taking a discriminated practice AND they won't reject two obvious benefits: "contributions" ( application fees) and an increase in applicants' numbers. To overcome this "weakness", you should convey much stronger work experences or values than someone in their 20s do.

3. EMBA or MBA.

EMBA is part-time program, and most EMBA programs have classes at weekends in every other week. In this situation, it is very hard for you to establish friendship with your classmates. Besides, the tuition for EMBA is much higher. If you go to US, MBA is the only choice.

4. Which school.

If you have more energies and time to apply for more schools, you could do so. In my case, because of the time restraint, I applied for five schools, two in the top 10 ( dream schools) and three between 20-30 ( backups) according to 2004 BW ranking. The results are that I was denied by the two in top 10 and admitted by the three with scholarship or fellowship. Three suggestions are:

1. Don't  take for granted about the top 20 schools. You need to consider the different culture of the school and pick one that fits your background. For example, many people may suggest that Wharton prefers older applicants. In fact,Wharton, in most part,is a student-run school. In this situation, your application is more likely to be viewed by a student, most of whom in their 20s, rather than by someone form the admission committee, most of whom in their 30s. If you think that your story is strong enough, you could ignore the diffence in readers, otherwise you may need to do more detailed research to expand your admission chance.

2. Some schools between 20 and 30 have strong desire to compete with their peers for applicants denied by top 20 schools and could give out a generous scholarship.Considering your goal for MBA, it would be much better to study in US with tuition waive. In this situation, you only need to pay for living expenses, which are a little bit higher than those in China.

3. You could refer to BW and USNews rankings, as well as WSJ's to make up your list. You may need to have a backup list since re-application will not work for you.

" Better late than never".

Good luck!

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-4-3 11:46:37编辑过]

superoldman

感谢gonghao,jade-lee,建议很有帮助.

我想如果我要按下面来做请指点)

1,参考各类排名,列出10个左右的学校,重点在20-30吧(10-20;30-50;也要细心选择,我是输不起的哈,不可能再来一年了)

2,或许也可以这样一封给admission office的信:讯问学校对于年龄的态度,先指出学校可能会:because (some)they don't want to be regarded as taking a discriminated practice AND they won't reject two obvious benefits: "contributions" ( application fees) and an increase in applicants' numbers. 而我是很认真的care,所以我希望给出做直接的回复,最能帮助我决定申请与否的回答.

哈，能这样试试吗，可以这样作为和学校沟通的开始吗．好象比较出格把？

jade-lee的分析很深入，在谢谢．

superoldman

jade-lee 的文章也要赞一个．虽然赞了也会有负面影响．

哈　希望其他人还是一样诚恳建议．我的选校问题还需要大家一起多帮助．任重道远哈．

CAMBA

其实问学校年龄是不是一个考虑因素没有意义.这无异于与虎谋皮. 他们没有办法对你说因为就象你已经知道的这会让他们陷于DISCRIMINATION的境地. 一个学校是否愿意收年纪大的也有一个前提是年纪到底多大.

我以为你在96楼里说的重点放在20-30是正确的.把ESSAY写好, 把ESSAY写好, 把ESSAY写好.  ROUND1申请.

superoldman

ok,

weiwei2004

Hi, Super"old"man,

My previous suggestions to you are casual writings behind continous hard thinkings. In your case, it is also extremely crucial for you to have a clear thinking to make every choice.

Till now, with so many warm and great suggestions, I believe you are getting young, at least, you feel younger.

My last recommendations to you is to work hard on the best schools, however, you should frame up some strong strategies toward your future applications. Below is some tactical ways for your reference:

1) develop a SWOT analysis on yourself, and make a direct comparision to see which schools among 15-20 ranking fit you best in terms of strengths of each schools.

2) open frank conversations with 1-2 schools to seek their perspectives on your value/contribution to their courses. Here, you certainly should highlights your value to the school rather check their sensitivities on "age". Of course, you will not get firm/"yes"or"no" answers for your questions, however, to get the school know you and to feel what's reactions from school make total sense for you to set up your next steps.

The entire process for MBA application is to establish a network with admission office upon your excellent capabilities. And from my experience, most schools will respond you nicely.

Meanwhile, you could "google" school TVC live show talk. Normally, each school will be invited to attend some show talk program. It was another example of information source to help you understand schools and their cultures.

3) lay out 2 schools among 15-20 and start to study schools' essay from now on.

4) If you really keen on studying overseas, you could pursue 20-30 ranking. However, personally, I don't suggest you to simply drop yourself to 20-30 ranking categories because it can be easily achieved at any time and does not well leverage your great time advantage in 2007 application. Furthermore, you will meet obstacles in later visa application if your shcool's ranking is too low.

Fly over your dream, and your dream will come true.