[求助]IB里面的哪种job对申请MBA更有帮助?

iceccn

IBD vs S/T

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IDAISY

which bank? job function does not matter but the brand name will count. on the other hand,  trader does not need an mba but an mba is nearly a must for banker.

cyacya

one is top wall street ibank, the other is a universal bank, but the program in the latter one is much better than the previous one.

cheeyong

对申请MBA有帮助的，当然是IB里的IBD（包括M&A，IPO), Equity Research, Fixed Income, Asset management等。各人同意二楼的，trader不需要MBA的，Sales主要是communication skills的问题。LZ自己考虑吧。

wingback

我对Mr. Yale大人的景仰有如滔滔江水连绵不绝又有如黄河决堤一发不可收拾

cyacya

以下是引用cheeyong在2006-1-10 20:46:00的发言：
对申请MBA有帮助的，当然是IB里的IBD（包括M&A，IPO), Equity Research, Fixed Income, Asset management等。各人同意二楼的，trader不需要MBA的，Sales主要是communication skills的问题。LZ自己考虑吧。

What I have got are IBD and Fixed Income S/T, I fully understand the key skills demanded for each job and I belive I can do well in both positions.

However, my concern is which one is better for my future career. In the respect that I don't have strong preferrence for the position, should I choose the more reputable firm or should I choose a better program in which I can gain more and have more exposure?

cheeyong

以下是引用cyacya在2006-1-10 21:12:00的发言：

What I have got are IBD and Fixed Income S/T, I fully understand the key skills demanded for each job and I belive I can do well in both positions.

However, my concern is which one is better for my future career. In the respect that I don't have strong preferrence for the position, should I choose the more reputable firm or should I choose a better program in which I can gain more and have more exposure?

I think you should make the decision  youself. Almost everyone believes China will have a huge fixed income market in the not-too-distant future, and many IBs are expanding their headcounts for fixed income specialists. However, the position you get is Fixed Income S/T, but not Fixed Income research. I would recommend that you choose a position which involves more mental work.

As for IBD, the work load is much heavier, but the responsibility may add more value to your application.

Just my two cents.

kevinao

i recommend IB. Probably for people in China, Citigroup/HSBC/SCB/JPMC are much more famous than Lehman /Bear Stern/UBS/CSFB/DB(IB division), but for IB industry or business school, I believe the latter are much better. You will find only IB (e.g. IBD/Fixed income/equity research) experiences are relevant if you want to join a IB after business school. In my school, Citi/HSBC commercial banking experience mean 'average' or even 'irrelevant' experience and IB experience in a local chinese securities firm mean 'relevant' IB experience. If the offer is from GS/MS/ML, i do not see any reason not to join! In addition, pay in top IB can be CNY1m+ if you are promoted to associate but pay in universal banks commercial banking are normally around CNY400-500K even when you are quite senior.

kevinao

I worked many years in China head office of one of the top 2 universal banks in Shanghai. I found my experience is regarded as 'irrelevant' when I want to join IB, PE or consulting firm in EU/HK and even China. In fact, only Citi and HSBC can be regarded as universal banks! But none of them are comparable to GS/MS/ML/LB in my school.

chenpaul

以下是引用kevinao在2006-1-11 4:47:00的发言：
I worked many years in China head office of one of the top 2 universal banks in Shanghai. I found my experience is regarded as 'irrelevant' when I want to join IB, PE or consulting firm in EU/HK and even China. In fact, only Citi and HSBC can be regarded as universal banks! But none of them are comparable to GS/MS/ML/LB in my school.

agree. Citi and HSBC have commercial banking business in China, which is irrelevant to IB. btw, which school are you in? are you intending to go to IB? i have similar experience with you.