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[原创]进来亚洲板块的感受

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发表于 2005-12-25 01:20:00 | 只看该作者

To minzu,


To be frank, the admission criteria for Australia and UK school are much lower than CEIBS. If you pay money you can go. The cheap and easy stuff, no good stuff.


If you can go to Harvard, of course you should go. But try not compare UK and Australia school with Harvard, even Cambridge is coming very cheap. One year master degree...Kidding...


In my opinion, graduate from CEIBS or CKGSB may get better placement than UK and Australia school. Chinese begin to look down upon those outsiders, except American.

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发表于 2005-12-25 11:06:00 | 只看该作者
But try not compare UK and Australia school with Harvard, even Cambridge is coming very cheap. One year master degree...Kidding...
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Hey buddy, I don't quite agree with this statement ( even though you are just kidding.)

Australia schools-- since this country doesn't have the "MBA culture," these schools are not good in career prospect indeed. The teaching quality should be ok for MBS(墨爾本) and AGSM(由雪梨大學以及另間學校國家資金成立的學校). But a decent job is not easy to find after the graduation.

As for second tier Top UK schools except super bull LBS, such as, Ox, Cam, and MBS, they are pretty good in academic performance and also pay a lot of attention learning the "core" from those US schools. One year is not a problem, because you can see IMD, Insead are both one yr progran. The only weak point for Chinese student is that we cannot easily land a job there because the program  neglect summer internship. But this problem does not apply to those native speaker and those who don't want a career switch but just want a career progress in their own field. As a result, you cannot blame ar on yr program, the statistic even shows that more and more people choose to go to one yr program because it saves one yr for "investors"(students) to earn back their investment sooner.

BTW, you can see more than 30 students from big Strategic consulting / IB companies go to study in Ox or Cam each yr. Do you believe that they are all idiot to choose a non-prestigious school

Ox and Cam refuse about 5/6 applicants per yr, I don't think they are "you pay and you can go" Bschools. If you do think so,please try to convince me and other people here.

However ,I do think Minzu is.....weird and DEFINETELY not agree with Minzu's opinion   
Hey Minzu, stop 挑起無意義的戰火 again , K?
You did that several times, and we don't think you words are "建設性的發言." If you love to express your idea, please state it more "meaningful" , K?
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-12-25 12:42:00 | 只看该作者

HI GUYS! IT SEEMS ALL OF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS RESEARCH DEGREE IN COMMONWEALTH COUNTRIES.PLEASE REMEMBER WHAT I MEATION IS RESEARCH DEGREE IN ACCOUNTING!!! TRY TO GET MORE INFORMATIONS ABOUT IT .............OK???


EVEN YOU GET OFFER FROM HARVARD BUT YOU CAN NOT GET AN OFFER OF RESEARCH DEGREE FROM UK OR AUSTRALIA.


TRY TO CONTACT YOUR FRIENDS WHO ARE IN UK .YOU WILL KNOW WHAT I MEAN


Anyway ,Merry Christmas

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发表于 2005-12-26 16:15:00 | 只看该作者

To minzu


if Commonwealth is so strong, we will know about it just as we know about Harvard. sooner or later. if u want us to respect it as we respect Harvard, Don't  be GOD, be gentlemen.


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发表于 2005-12-27 02:09:00 | 只看该作者

To minzu


既然这么牛,鄙视中国学校,


你为什么不去美国的学校/Harvard?


   



  


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发表于 2005-12-28 12:04:00 | 只看该作者
修心养性中
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发表于 2006-1-13 09:49:00 | 只看该作者
MBA和英语有什么关系吗?
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发表于 2006-1-14 13:51:00 | 只看该作者

对MBA的取得可能没有什么影响。


我认为但是如果考虑在国际环境下工作的话,英语的流利程度对工作还是会有一点影响的。我的体会最困难的部分是在会议中negotiation。不流利的语言最终会成为思想交流的障碍。


上面的观点没有任何冒犯大家的意思,不过表达一点想法。有冒犯之处请见谅。

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发表于 2006-1-21 11:57:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用amarkiu在2005-12-25 1:20:00的发言:

To minzu,


To be frank, the admission criteria for Australia and UK school are much lower than CEIBS. If you pay money you can go. The cheap and easy stuff, no good stuff.


If you can go to Harvard, of course you should go. But try not compare UK and Australia school with Harvard, even Cambridge is coming very cheap. One year master degree...Kidding...


In my opinion, graduate from CEIBS or CKGSB may get better placement than UK and Australia school. Chinese begin to look down upon those outsiders, except American.


This guy must be mad to say that.

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发表于 2006-1-21 12:17:00 | 只看该作者

把中欧,长江和英国的top school比如LBS,LSE相比?只能代表楼主的浅薄,之间的差距不知道有几个量级。有几个中欧,长江的毕业能在伦敦,香港的TOP投行,TOP consulting firm找好工作?看看placement就知道了。我们不该妄自菲薄,但绝不代表着可以夜郎自大。中欧距离顶级商学院还有n远的路要走。最搞笑的是中欧排名靠前竟然有很大一部分是依靠其high pay post MBA。因为人家考虑汇率是按照1.8:1(号称考虑购买力)。谁敢说我在国内挣18万RMB和哈佛毕业生挣10万USD日子一样,这个人一定疯了。这样算的活,我的收入也有6位美金了。


去年12月在上海考CFA LEVEL1的时候遇到两个长江即将毕业的MBA。个人感觉谈吐相当一般。其中一个在local cpa firm工作多年,沾沾自喜于找到DTT Audit Semi-senior的职位。另一位毕业于北大才两年,因为申请数学的PHD签证被拒,没有正经工作过,mba毕业没找工作听他讲又想申请到美国渎MIF, MSF。我绝对不指望能从这样的校友身上学到什么。


本来还曾考虑过国内的学校,现在真的是想也不想了。


在这里见了很多两个学校掐来掐去,真是一件十分荒谬的事情.我的感觉是两个矮子吵架,我有1m高,你才98cm。


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