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[学校信息] [Reddit 精华搬运] Reasons not to go to these schools

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在 Reddit 上看到这个系列,觉得是非常实诚的分享,可以快速了解这些学校,特此搬运过来
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MBA/comments/krqdny/reasons_not_to_go_these_schools_v15/

Don’t go to ANDERSON if…
...you want to go out multiple times per week. Los Angeles is a fun place, but drinks are not cheap and getting around the city can be quite a pain with traffic (Uber’s will add up). Many students do go out in Santa Monica or West Hollywood frequently, but bar options on campus or in the neighborhoods where most MBA students live are not great.
...you don’t plan on staying in California. The Anderson network is great, but the vast majority live on the west coast… many swear they won’t stay and then the sunshine, ocean, and beautiful days keeps you here forever.
...you want a large class. Anderson has only 360 students and it’s fairly close knit. We have many group projects, a core curriculum in sections, learning teams, and a capstone research project that forces you to get to know almost the whole class. We do segment by interest areas in clubs, but the Anderson world is small.
Don’t go to BOOTH if…
...you like structure and consistent cohort activities in your business school experience. Chicago Booth throws structure out the door after Q1.
...you don’t have some idea of the types of classes you want to take. Booth’s flexible curriculum can be overwhelming if you’re not sure where you want to focus
...if you can’t deal with cold, winter months off the beautiful coast of Lake Michigan.
...if you want one set group of friends in your MBA experience. Since cohorts don’t have the same weight at Booth as they do at other business schools, you will need to make your friends through recruiting, class, RandomWalk, etc.
Don’t go to COLUMBIA if…
...you’re looking to know all of your classmates. With such a large class and infinite social options throughout NYC, cliques/groups form and diverge. Not to mention that a decent portion of the student body lived in New York prior to school and devotes their social lives to existing friends.
...Don’t go here (yet) if state-of-the-art facilities are your make-or-break (though it shouldn’t be). Uris Hall was built in the 60s and while it’s functional, there is a reason a new campus is being built. Class sizes have swelled so study space can be tough to come by (especially in spring term when ~250 January term students show up) and classrooms tend to have a small window or two at best. It doesn’t harm your learning, but sometimes you wonder why you’re paying so much to sit at a desk that still has an Ethernet jack (yes, we have wifi).
Don’t go to CORNELL if...
...you want a two-year vacation from the working world. Johnson students have a bit of a chip on their shoulder mentality. Students have and choose to work hard (academically, recruiting, socially).
…you want to travel a ton or eat amazing food. Ithaca is a small town that punches above its weight culturally, but there are limited options for travel and food.
...Don’t go here if you want a program organized/managed by administration. Recruiting, professional development, feedback processes, and clubs are all run by second years with minimal guidance and structure from the broader school administration. However, this also means that you can build, create, or change anything that you might want.
...Don’t go here if you don’t have an outdoorsy or hippy streak. You can totally get by, but the best/weirdest parts of Ithaca are definitely hippy and outdoorsy things.
Don't go to DARDEN if...
...unfortunately, Darden students couldn’t respond due to the crazy amount of homework.
...joking. If you went to Darden and have real thoughts, we’d love to hear them!
Don’t go to FUQUA if…
...you want to be an entrepreneur. It’s possible, but I don't think our curriculum or club structure is designed for that as well as other schools. For example, faculty are more academic than practitioners.
Don’t go to HARVARD if...
...ok, so most people would go here if they can but…
...Don’t go here if you don’t want to do lots of reading or engage in the classroom - it’s embarrassing and very obvious if you haven’t prepared, and ultimately this is the main value prop of HBS anyway. If you want to start a company, there are resources, but you’ll still have to put some effort into class (less if you come from a finance background and can breeze through those classes) and attendance is required - so expect to have to make more trade offs socially.
...Don’t go here if you want to walk away feeling like you gained specific quantitative skill sets - this is very reading heavy and there are discussion questions with every case, but fewer problem sets or models to turn in (may have to build some as prep work but is more what you make of it as opposed to part of core learning objectives).
...Don’t go here if you want to have control over your schedule the first year (8am - 2:30pm generally) your calendar is basically populated each week and because of the way sections are set up, they can do this without worrying about conflicts.
Don’t go to HAAS if...
…you want a structured program with lots of school resources. Haas is a very student led/driven school. If you want steady programming or hand holding, you won't get it there. We seem to have less funding for clubs because we’re public. We have to pay to join just about every club.
Don't go to KELLEY if...
...you don’t care about the personal growth side of business school. There is heavy emphasis on understanding yourself, your skill set, and how your work with others. The program isn’t huge (<180 students per year) so it can be hard to hide from peers or faculty.
...you’re too uppity for a dive bar. It’s a typical Midwest college town, meaning great $2 specials, but nothing in the way of clubbing or high end nightlife.
Don’t go to KELLOGG if...
…working in teams makes you crazy. You will be on a team project for 90% of your assignments, even for things that would probably be easier done alone.
...if you’re seeking an academically rigorous experience. There are certainly interesting and difficult classes and content, but assignments and teamwork are often students’ last priority after recruiting, social events, and club activities.
...you want to have a big city experience - Evanston is a suburb 30 minute north of Chicago
...you don’t care about the soft stuff like personal growth. Probing about your personal goals and how you’re tracking toward them is a very regular convo topic, even with acquaintances
...you prioritize constructive debate. Commonly students avoid conflict or “let things go” rather than engage in more challenging and potentially uncomfortable discussions.
Don’t go to ROSS if...
...you hate football (and sports in general) and have no interest in tailgating. Every Saturday fall semester is a full day of football/drinking and then there’s basketball, hockey... You can definitely find folks who aren’t into this scene (I was able to!) but the majority definitely participates (esp. In football).
...you can’t handle the cold / snow. Most people walk 7-15 minutes to class and winter is a real thing in MI. The mentality you need is that with a puffy coat and boots and some beers, you will be fine.
...you only want case learning. Ross pioneered “action-based learning” and take that very seriously. This also means your last quarter of your first year is a 7-week consulting project with 5ish peers, so if you don’t LOVE group work you may want to go elsewhere.
...you want a big city life all the time. Detroit is 45 minutes away, and people do explore it, but the majority of the social scene is in Ann Arbor, which is much more of a college town. That being said, there are lots of fun things to do in and around Michigan. Lots of students take trips to the Upper Peninsula and head to Detroit for dinners, concerts, etc.
...you don’t want to take a core curriculum. You can wave out of some requirements (technically all, but no one does), but most of your first year is with your section of ~80 students taking the core classes. Great for bonding, not great if you want a lot of electives right from the very start.
....you want to have a ton of weekend trips, because of football in the fall (see above) and because Rossers generally seem to be more $$ conscious than other business schools, weekend travel is limited. Also there are only a couple “treks” planned by clubs
Don’t go to SLOAN if…
...the “touchy feely” soft skills are critical for you to build. Many classes have problem sets instead of cases that are more data driven, which tends to be different / new for a lot of people. Emphasis tends to be placed on those skills above softer skills or leadership development.
...you want a 100% social / party hard experience. Sloan is very diverse in the outcomes students seek out of their time. If you want the heavy party scene, it’s there, just not as big as other schools. If you want to spend time tinkering with your startup, plenty of people are doing that as well.
...you have a hard time working with diverse working styles. Sloan’s student population has many engineers / technologists, which tend to work differently in teams from consultant-style backgrounds
...you want a program organized/managed by administration. Recruiting, professional development, feedback processes, and clubs are all run by second years with minimal guidance and structure from the broader school administration. However, this also means that you can build, create, or change anything that you might want.
....you can’t deal with the weather. Boston isn’t as cold as Chicago, but the winter lasts a long time (October - end of April) with lots of grey sky and rain, which can be tough
Don’t go to STANFORD if…
...an engaged classroom is one of the most important factors to you. It’s not uncommon for people to come to class late, unprepared and uninterested.
...you roll your eyes, or worse, actively argue against the use of the word “privilege.” It’s going to come up a lot in and out of class, so you will get more out of the experience if you are willing and able to engage with the topic in a constructive way.
...you are looking to “major” or specialize - we all take the general management classes so you don’t have as many electives
...you are trying to “live in the city” and experience night life; we spend most of our time in Palo Alto and going into the city takes a lot of effort.
...you’re trying to save money or avoid a soul crushingly high debt balance post-school. Tuition is expensive like any other school, but so is everything else. Flights, housing, ubers (or parking tickets), food… Palo Alto is priced for Tim Cook, not students
...you don’t value a network with a high concentration in Silicon Valley’s unique brand(s) of entrepreneurship. I was surprised how much Stanford’s curriculum, faculty and even student population revolved around the Bay Area. Even avoiding classes about VC, I had to prepare at least one case a week about a tech start-up founded somewhere along the Cal Train, and something like 65% of my classmates stayed in SF after graduation
...you just made a massive investment in suits or other business clothing to impress people. You’ll be giving presentations in a t shirt within a week.
Don't go to TEPPER if...
...you compare every aspect of every US city you're in to New York, LA, etc. Pittsburgh isn't a Tier 1 city, but there are plenty of really great bars, restaurants and museums and they're all within 15-20 minutes of wherever you live. Don't complain that the pizza isn't up to NYC standards, the Asian food isn't as good as SF or the Mexican food isn't as good as most Texas cities...because of course it isn't but it's more than good enough.
...you don't want to learn any analytical software. Tepper cares a lot about quantitative skill and at bare minimum you'll have to learn some R for your required coursework. Other classes might use SPSS and similar tools.
Don’t go to TUCK if…
...you work super independently. Everything at Tuck requires collaboration - from class projects to extracurriculars.
...you want to do an internship DURING the semester (possible to do remote but much more difficult).
...you want to spend significant time with people outside of the MBA class / community. No one is really from Hanover - all of your friends will be other Tuckies (with the occasional med / grad student thrown in).
Don’t go to WHARTON if…
...you’re not ready for an academically rigorous experience (or if you don’t like or have a relatively strong background in quant fields - science, business, math, etc.). While there is grade non disclosure, the first semester is grueling particularly for those who don’t have a quantitative academic background.
...you hope your admissions application is the last application you ever fill out. As a very large school, there’s always competition for limited spots in social, extracurriculars, and academics.
...You’re not willing to ‘pay to play’. Wharton’s club and extracurricular fees are not part of our tuition or fees, so every time you want to join a class trip or take part in a cocktail tasting, expect that to come out of pocket - it adds up!
...You want a strong learning team experience. Because Wharton gives a lot of flexibility with core classes, the learning team experience can be rather hit or miss.
...You want a strong weekend campus culture. Wharton doesn’t have Friday classes, so many students end up travelling for the weekends - frequently this is with other Wharton students, so you still get that bonding, it just means that sometimes all your friends seem to be somewhere besides Center City.
...You want to roll out of bed to get to your first class. (Virtually all MBA students live in Center City Philly, which is a 1-2 mi walk from campus in West Philly. Get ready to get your steps in if you come to Wharton.
Don’t go to YALE if...
...you don’t care about “society.” The school’s “business & society” mission is real and permeates the culture and pedagogy, so if it’s not a focus for you, you might not be very happy here.
...you want only case-based classes. Although Yale does use some HBS-style cases, they also employ “raw” cases which are longer, more in-depth, and can be less discussion-focused.
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