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[面试经验] Boston University & Northwestern Kellogg Marketing (CB) PhD 面经

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发表于 2018-2-3 17:29:14 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
默默攒个人品,记忆不好,随便写写(

Northwestern Kellogg
时间:1.23日02:30am
在场应该有三四个人,然而屏幕上只显示出了一个prof,而且快出框了,感觉自己对着墙壁说话(不
1 A current paper that interests you.
这个之前随便准备了篇paper,就说了下。结果说完他们问,那你觉得这文章未来可以继续做什么呢?我就懵了,因为真的没想过这个问题(没错,就是这么傻呜呜呜),恩了一会儿耿直地说我没想过(……),他们说没关系,之后想到什么email他们中任何一位(
2 如果现在Amazon联系你,给你所有resource,你想做什么?
我当时的内心:??? ,然后对方又随便说了几句都没反应过来回话,大脑当机空白状态QnQ
好不容易回过神来,面试前正好鬼使神差看了一篇quant的Amazon field study的paper,就是讲WOM和observational learning不同效果的,于是抓着救命稻草说要不咱做做这个paper的follow-up studies?(,,•́ . •̀,,)
对方说啊,这就是我要问的,什么follow-up studies?你说的这paper只是给了一个foundation,那你要做什么呢?
于是笨笨的LZ又当机了,半天说找个moderator?
对方:嗯,什么moderator?……(注意到LZ生无可恋的样子)……你能就给出一个hypothesis吗?
于是我给了一个听上去就没什么营养的假设。
然后另一个老师问,negative 比positive WOM更influential,你觉得是为什么?什么情况下effect会reverse?
LZ凌乱的内心:我真的对这块一!无!所!知!啊—— 随便扯了几句,然后对方又说了她的观点。
一阵尴尬的沉默后,终于结束了这个问题( ( ╯-_-)╯
最后是让我问问题,那时候我已经没什么意识了(literally),就一问一答,还又说了一些很傻的话(算了,不提了。
结束前说两周内有结果,然而现在正好两周过去,杳无音讯,怕不是凉了(。)
总之大概凌晨三点左右面完,整个人真的是一脸懵,觉得自己完全暴露了稀缺的智商给对方看,没有当场哭出来已经是我的极限了嗷_(:з」∠)_

Boston University Questrom
时间:2.2日9pm

Boston时间8am开始的,一开始收到时间超惊讶的,prof好勤奋啊(你够
Anyway,屏幕打开前前后后坐了四个人,三个我SOP里提的很漂亮很温柔很可爱(重点错了喂,划掉)的女老师,一个coordinator。
全程特别舒服,就是聊天,而且不会盯着追问你。不像Kellogg就是准备了那两个问题问你,Questrom的prof明显没有准备过问题。
所以就杂七杂八说了很多有的没的,比如讲一讲你之前做的那个Project;Project里面担任的工作;实验遇到失败怎么应对的;Why PhD;research interest;Why BU Questrom;为什么喜欢做研究;你之前在美国交换,觉得怎么样呀之类的。太多了记不清了(
最后让我问问题,就问了placement,advisor确定的方式这些。重点是最后问他们对于进入项目就读前有什么建议,coordinator说Enjoy your summer!我当时:(*・ω・)ノ゙,然后就说我上个interview的时候对方跟我说的是read aggressively啊啊(没错,就是Kellogg),他就说你也可以同时做这个,但这是我们style的不同了(此处应有摊手表情)phd五年是个很长的过程,你之前需要好好relax。我就( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
然后突然信号断了,挂了重新打,不过其实已经快结束了,所以打过去后马上就挂了。
总之就是非常轻松愉快的聊天的style,女老师们全程对我温柔地笑啊,有个女老师还很乖巧地记一些笔记,感觉都是很nice的人,我对Questrom的好感度刷了100个百分点啊(

大概就是这样,看到这里大家应该已经明白LZ是个没什么智商喜欢卖萌无欲无求的小朋友,如果真的读phd并不是因为想做出什么大成果,只是因为还挺想做老师的,有(虽然也要在家里工作但起码是表面上休息意义的)假期啊!其实挺想去research-based school,因为不是特别喜欢teaching,但是现在应该基本不可能去的了吧,望天,嘛。不过,其实去年冬天一直到现在我都还有点犹豫要不要读mkt phd的事,不过还是先面试等结果再说(喂,你。
然后,想问一下如果在Boston University这种level的学校读出来(等等,对方根本没要你啊喂!),是不是job market上工作会比较难找?确实看到他们的placement也不是特别的好,虽然老师看上去很好,但真的也没法保证五年可以有很好的publication什么的,稍稍有点担心。
但是真的好喜欢Boston这个地点和这里的感觉,趴(醒醒,先别做梦了
嘛,先这样吧,之后再有面试再重新开贴好啦w

发表于 2018-2-3 19:02:44 | 显示全部楼层
LZ加油....看来你Kellogg面试困难的原因果然是因为是MKT CB啊..
 楼主| 发表于 2018-2-4 09:27:47 | 显示全部楼层
ttee1996 发表于 2018-2-3 19:02
LZ加油....看来你Kellogg面试困难的原因果然是因为是MKT CB啊..

谢谢w 你也加油!话说Kellogg有给你回音么?
发表于 2018-2-4 12:24:32 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
naikolily 发表于 2018-2-4 09:27
谢谢w 你也加油!话说Kellogg有给你回音么?

我也没,估计下周出吧
发表于 2018-2-4 21:42:50 | 显示全部楼层
做quant的飘过。没想到西北面的东西还挺难的,LZ好运!!
发表于 2018-2-6 03:58:41 | 显示全部楼层
Hi LZ, if you do not mind, may I ask if you can share a bit info of your profile, please?
发表于 2018-2-6 08:00:15 | 显示全部楼层
Kellogg is a very harsh program, don't get too upset. It could even be a good thing if you fail to get in.

As for programs like BU, their brand names won't help much on the job market but it won't hurt your chances either. I would say only candidates from top private schools and Berkeley have privileges on the job market. Not many differences among the rest.

If you haven't made up your mind on doing a CB phd, think twice. The job market for CB is systematicly tough (the worst job market in the B-school). Getting an A publication before the job market is becoming more and more difficult unless you have something under review before entering the program. But schools are still raising their bars. Teaching is also very important if you want to land in a US research school. Your success on the job market is highly depended on how well you can communicate. For Chinese students, it could even matter more than your research. If you don't think you're fully prepared for all of them, doing a master or working for a while could be good options.
发表于 2018-2-6 08:13:59 | 显示全部楼层
zjq407 发表于 2018-2-6 08:00
Kellogg is a very harsh program, don't get too upset. It could even be a good thing if you fail to g ...

Good day mate, Thank you very much for your valuable information.

If you don't mind, could you please tell a little more about the job market for other fields (e.g., industrial relations and organization theory)? My current major is HR, but my interest is Organization Theory. A senior PhD candidate told me HR and IR would not be fairly promising in Business Schools and he suggested me not to apply to HR & IR programs if I want to land a job in Business Schools 5 years later. Would you mind telling me if it is true?

 楼主| 发表于 2018-2-6 09:27:57 | 显示全部楼层
zjq407 发表于 2018-2-6 08:00
Kellogg is a very harsh program, don't get too upset. It could even be a good thing if you fail to g ...

谢谢详细的回复和信息!
我确实能够从Kellogg面试的氛围中感受到他们的harsh,sigh,感觉里面的phd应该挺苦逼的……而且曾经哪里看到过rumor说他们是为数不多可能会中途踢人的项目?也不知道准确性~
Top private school指的是top10 tier的吗?是不是就是Stanford, Duke, Yale, Wharton, Chicago, Northwestern, Columbia, USC Marshall (?), Harvard?我不确定还有没有别的?这些项目如果好好认认真真跟着导师读,是不是哪怕出不来A-publication也还是可能在美国找到教职的?
Teaching那点我觉得说的很中肯,我个人是英语口语没有任何问题,就是临场反应有时不大好,中文表达有时候都说不大出来,教课、communicate什么的我不大敢确定能不能锻炼出来。
总之,非常谢谢!看你过去的帖子好象快上job market了,加油哦!w
发表于 2018-2-6 10:42:45 | 显示全部楼层
naikolily 发表于 2018-2-6 09:27
谢谢详细的回复和信息!
我确实能够从Kellogg面试的氛围中感受到他们的harsh,sigh,感觉里面的phd应该挺 ...

Every year, there're students dropping out from Kellogg phd programs--it's a fact not a rumor...

In my opinion, if you can graduate from those top programs (USC might not be, NYU is), you would have much higher chance to find a job in good Asian schools. But still, it cannot guarantee your academic job in the US, even if you have A publication(s).

US job market is way more complicated. Many factors would play a role--research fit, teaching needs, connections, timing, diversity concern... Top 30 research schools have really high bars for CB candidates now. You often need to have high quality A publications with interesting and promising topics. Top private schools would also question your ability to teach MBA if you have no working experience or you're a non-native speaker. Several top schools are hiring CB candidates every year but they often end up getting no one or advanced AP.

Lower ranked research schools (after t50) and balanced schools often care more about what you can teach. They want people to teach marketing analytics, digital marketing and sales classes. So that's why our quant and managerial friends have way better job market than us.

I'm not discouraging you. But I guess you don't have much exposure of this career yet. I highly suggest you to have more preparation before stepping into this career--doing a master, finding a full-time RA or even working in some marketing analytics firms. They will benefit you in the long run.

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