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有没有北大国际毕业的?或想考北大国际的,来谈谈北大国际如何?

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21#
发表于 2005-8-14 01:28:00 | 只看该作者

不要老是吵架行不?不要带着个人情结嘛,这样怎么讨论下去?每个人都有自己的观点,而且,对于同一个事物,不同的人了解到的可能只是某一方面,所以,也许有偏颇的地方,但是,总算也能够给大家一定的信息吧,大家心平气和一点,宽容一点。谢谢!

22#
发表于 2005-8-14 07:57:00 | 只看该作者
It is really a joke for PKU to partner with the unknown American university. Just imagine, if BIMBA's partner is Harvard, BIMBA definately can attract the best candidates in China.If without a partner, it still can attract very good candidates in China. However, with such a partner, I would say lots of best candidates, may be not all, will try not to apply the program.This is something funny like that " Harvard B-school established a strategic alliance with Guizhou B-school in China." (* I do not know whether got Guizhou B-school, just like I do not know whether got Fordam.If got Guizhou B-school in reality, apologize first.)BIMBA could position itself much higher, but it failed to do so.Now, it is even harder to get rid of the impact of Fordam.I would say the impact is huge and negative to me.
23#
发表于 2005-8-14 08:04:00 | 只看该作者
Sorry, add a few more sentence. I do believe that BIMBA is still one of the best MBA programs in China. However, I do believe that the reputation is mainly from PKU and CCER, but not from Fordam University.The alliance with Fordam have really ruined the potential of BIMBA to grow to be a better MBA program.
24#
发表于 2005-8-14 10:34:00 | 只看该作者
实在无聊, 就插两句吧.



正如Ckman所说, BIMBA跟Fordam合作有它的历史原因. 那个时候中国的中外合办MBA还在起步阶段,BIMBA也可谓先锋了.

而且我们不应肆意嘲笑Fordam的RANK.鲁迅先生曾有过引言嘛,呵呵. 寸有所长,何况它早就取得AACSB的认证.

大家也都知道这个认证是严谨和科学的. BIMBA由默默无闻发展到今天,成绩显著, 又何尝没有从美国伙伴那里汲取养分?



至于今后BIMBA的发展也是有多种可能的,如选择新的合作伙伴,与其他项目整合等等. 我们也看出了CK校友对于北大这的品牌的看重和对BiMBA的建言,尽管不一定顺耳.
[此贴子已经被作者于2005-8-14 10:39:56编辑过]
25#
发表于 2005-8-14 15:48:00 | 只看该作者
Just too many "you think" "you hear" and too many baseless assumptions.
MBAs should learn to  base their positions on solid specifics. I
hope you can conduct surveys in Beida and among fortune 500 companies.
Actually I did compare Bimba with Guanghua when I was still a
Beida undergruduate students by using questionairs and I re-conducted
the survey in the year 2004 three year after I graduate and now base
what i say on the research outcome. If you don't have first hand
materials and numbers, please do shut up. I assure you that many
of  your quoted  examples including the history of CCER are
absolutely baseless. Please speak as a MBA does. Thank you.

26#
发表于 2005-8-14 17:06:00 | 只看该作者

Just now, searched some information on BiMBA. It is not as bad as what I had thought. I admire Jiazhe's attitude to use questinairs and survey to support his/her opinion.Can just show us the data? I really doubt whether the data is sufficient and representive.Ask Beida's student to prove Beida's program is good. Sounds a little bit biased.I still prefer CEIBS and CKGSB.


27#
发表于 2005-8-14 18:14:00 | 只看该作者

我也有意向申请北大国际,但目前还没有准备好.

28#
发表于 2005-8-14 20:59:00 | 只看该作者

I admire the people at CCER a lot. However, it is not a good strategy for the Beida to have too many separate programs running similar things. I recommend that CCER merge with Guanghua and get rid of the partnership with Fordham.

29#
发表于 2005-8-14 21:25:00 | 只看该作者
Thank you for your recommendation. Ckman. However, my position if that
Beida is a place to embrace things of different styles. I believe even
conflicting programs will coexit in Beijing in a coordinated manner.
That is the tradition and essence of Beida spirit. Bimba and Guanghua
cannot be combined since they represent two teaching philosophy and
people will initiate their option based on their needs. Partnership
with Fordham does has its problem, as we can see, but we have to bear
in mind that Beida and Qinghua, even CEIBS and CKstill cannot be
parelleled with any of the world class MBA programs  and a
prestigious program cannot be achieved over night or in a few years for
it takes tradition and culture refinement. Fordham is not a big name
indeed but in terms of MBA development, I  can assure you that,
far better than Beida and Qinghua. Why not forget fame, reputation and
anything superficial, being down to earch is essential to all MBAs.
Thank you again!

30#
发表于 2005-8-14 21:33:00 | 只看该作者
will release some of the research data soon.

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