有没有北大国际毕业的？或想考北大国际的，来谈谈北大国际如何？

leisure1221

  mbafans 总结得太精炼了，可以去bimba招生办应聘主管了，我是05pt的，今后还请MM多多关照和指教，另外我觉得bimba和中欧与长江办学模式上还是有所区别的，在于他们依托的机构不同。但总的来说各有特点，应该说都是能够在国内读到的比较国际化的或者说接近国际水准mba，我觉得bimba教学上在与国内case相结合上还是比较有特色，在职班也是一个亮点。

ckman

"2。 关注培养学学员的宏观意识和思维方式，这得益于中国经济研究中心的经济学家，像林毅夫、周其人等。本人觉得“宏观视野”对个人的长期发展很有必要"；

林毅夫、周其人 are excellent.

"1。 金融和财务管理强，来自中国经济研究中心由金融领域的牛人，Morgan、Merrill-Lynch的实战家授课，还有与LSE的暑期课程，经济中心还有金融硕士班呢。。。"

Please list the names of these "来自中国经济研究中心由金融领域的牛人". Otherwise it is not informative and anybody can claim that he is 金融领域的牛人. How do they compare with 王江, 周国富, 曹泉伟, 梅剑平 of Tsinghua, 王坦, 朗咸平, 黄明, 曹辉宁 of CKGSB, 陈志武, 周春生, 徐信忠 of PKU and 张春 of CEIBS?

"5。国际师资的比例70%左右，来自美国商学院；"

which american business school? US have thousands of business schools. I hope it is not from Fordham which probably will be ranked out of the top 100 even in China

marymamama

他们各有千秋啊，都有牛人老师，所以才拿到一起比较嘛！凭感觉了，看你喜欢鱼还是熊掌了。北大国际是我梦想的学府，身为中国人，上过北大的人生更完整，可是中欧也真的不错，考虑中……

mbafans

May we have your attention, ckman?

关于BiMBA教师构成，请看下面的连接。（也供其它网友参考）。CKMAN说得对，用事实说话。不过事实证明，您显然缺乏对教师构成的了解。

http://www.bimba.edu.cn/english/en/rx03c.php#

此外，AACSB International认证fordham的mba学位,在中国，国务院学位同样认证她的合法性。（详情请看国务院学位办网站，中外合作办学认可的单子有列出。）还是用事实说话。

再用事实说话。中国经济研究中心的在金融领域有研究的教授，易刚、陈平、平新乔、宋国青、沈明高、施建淮、柏兰芝等教授。平新乔教授主管金融硕士班项目，哪里还有外聘的老师，例如张新（中国人民银行金融稳定局局长）、吴志攀（金融学教授、北大常务副校长）、黄明（金融学教授，曾在芝加哥大学商学院和斯坦福大学商学院任教）。（信息来自www.ccer.edu.cn）.这些资源可以为北大国际的学生共享。 其他院校也一定有金融领域不少牛教，这些优秀师资也不可能为一所学校独享。至于他们的实力，大家评说吧。

我们能看出您对CK的热爱。不过，如果您真是ck人，请慎重发言。因为您代学校、他的学生的形象。“严谨”，对于学习还是做事，大概都是需要的吧。

还是那就话，不要互相诋毁。要分享，要共同提高。当然，如果有不确切的信息，作为学生或关心的他成长的人，必须澄清。

ckman

I am shocked that you claim Huang ming as your professor as he is the academic associate dean at CK.

With the exception of Ming Huang, in finance, none of the people you listed can compare with 陈志武, 周春生, 徐信忠 of Guanghua GSB. Most of these people are economists who are not specialized in finance. If you do not believe in me, please ask your Professors themselves.

It is very unfortunate for PKU to be associated with Fordham. What a joke! Remember, PKU is ranked top 17 in the world. I would call for PKU president to step down If I were an alumni of PKU.

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jiazhe

I am an alumi of PKU, graduated in the year 2001. I am personally so
proud of CCER and Bimba, even if it is associated with Fordham. As is
known to all, China is short of world-class MBA programs,
including  Guang Hua and Qing Hua. Then why not learn from US
counterparts? Harvard, Yale, Stanford? No, they will not demean
themselves to be associated with PKU. Rank 17?  Even Beida
Students consider it nonsense. Within Beida, everbody knows CCER have a
much better MBA program than Guanghua, believe it or not. Do you know
how many Beida students go back to Guanghuang to pursue MBA? Do you
know how many go back to Bimba? If you don't know the number, please
just shut up.

leisure1221

以下是引用ckman在2005-8-12 18:39:00的发言：

I am shocked that you claim Huang ming as your professor as he is the academic associate dean at CK.

With the exception of Ming Huang, in finance, none of the people you listed can compare with 陈志武, 周春生, 徐信忠 of Guanghua GSB. Most of these people are economists who are not specialized in finance. If you do not believe in me, please ask your Professors themselves.

It is very unfortunate for PKU to be associated with Fordham. What a joke! Remember, PKU is ranked top 17 in the world. I would call for PKU president to step down I am an alumni of PKU.

hi ckman, I have to remind you that MBAfan just mentioned that" Minghuang is visiting professor of CCER , who just like Liangneng, the Emba Dean of CEIBS, whos is also a visiting professor of CCER. It seems that you quite interested in finance. But unfortunately , I doubt your real background of finance, as you even put 易纲（央行行长助理） aside. I just attend a meeting host by him last month in head office of people's bank. Actually, I dont want to depreciate anybody. As a international financial market analyst who have worked in the headoffice of a commerical bank for many years, the professors MBAfan mentioned in my personal view are very respectful in practice.

On the other hand you mentioned that PKU is ranked 17th. But I think this is even more ridiculous as few people including most of the alumni of PKU will take it serious except you I am afraid.

Finally, I think no matter 长江or CEIBS or Bimba need more encourage and contribution  rather than attacks. For they all are the future of Chines domestic top business school. Why not more cooperative to seek double win and to be a character healthy person.

ckman

以下是引用jiazhe在2005-8-13 17:47:00的发言：
I am an alumi of PKU, graduated in the year 2001. I am personally so
proud of CCER and Bimba, even if it is associated with Fordham. As is
known to all, China is short of world-class MBA programs,
including  Guang Hua and Qing Hua. Then why not learn from US
counterparts? Harvard, Yale, Stanford? No, they will not demean
themselves to be associated with PKU. Rank 17?  Even Beida
Students consider it nonsense. Within Beida, everbody knows CCER have a
much better MBA program than Guanghua, believe it or not. Do you know
how many Beida students go back to Guanghuang to pursue MBA? Do you
know how many go back to Bimba? If you don't know the number, please
just shut up.

1: This statement can't be true: "Within Beida,...."

Please ask Guanghua executive associate dean Zhang, Weiyin what he thinks of BIMBA and how it compares with Guanghua MBA. He would certainly disagree with you and he is at Beida right now!

2. Even Guanghua is talking with Duke U about collaborations and that implies that PKU does have a good brand name and top schools in US are willing to work with PKU.

3. The reason BIMBA is associated with Fordham is very complicated. PKU deserves a much better partner and can. Look at Tsinghua, its partner is MIT. It has more to do with politics. Here is the story. When Lin Yifu, graduated from Chicago in the eighties, he wanted to go to Beida. However, he can't get a job in Beida because the local people in the economics department won't let him. I guess Professor Lin would make people in the economics department feel uneasy. So Professor Lin has to set up a center called CCER and he got some funds. In a few years, these funds ran out and CCER needed money. To make money, they started this BIMBA program, which is probably illegitimate as Beida already has a business school called Guanghua. Nevertheless, CCER went along and partnered up with Fordham because it did not have the support of the University.

4. BIMBA is in a awkard situation and I really sympathize with Lin Yifu. One way out would be to merge it with Guanghua. This will make it using the PKU brand openly and have better partners. Politically, it may not be easy. However, it is really odd for so many different schools, centers and departments to run MBA programs in Beida. I heard that the economics school also has its own kind of executive education training programs. These sort of things will ruin the reputation of Beida.

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ckman

以下是引用leisure1221在2005-8-13 19:59:00的发言：

hi ckman, I have to remind you that MBAfan just mentioned that" Minghuang is visiting professor of CCER , who just like Liangneng, the Emba Dean of CEIBS, whos is also a visiting professor of CCER. It seems that you quite interested in finance. But unfortunately , I doubt your real background of finance, as you even put 易纲（央行行长助理） aside. I just attend a meeting host by him last month in head office of people's bank. Actually, I dont want to depreciate anybody. As a international financial market analyst who have worked in the headoffice of a commerical bank for many years, the professors MBAfan mentioned in my personal view are very respectful in practice.

On the other hand you mentioned that PKU is ranked 17th. But I think this is even more ridiculous as few people including most of the alumni of PKU will take it serious except you I am afraid.

Finally, I think no matter 长江or CEIBS or Bimba need more encourage and contribution  rather than attacks. For they all are the future of Chines domestic top business school. Why not more cooperative to seek double win and to be a character healthy person.

I also respect the names that mbafan listed. However, there is a difference between his list and my list as the names on my list have extensive teaching and research experience in top North American schools and are widely known in the North American profession. Those in the mbafan list are mostly economists and do not have extensive teaching and research experiences in finance in North America. Clearly, I am biased but I favor the peole on my list.

We should all cooperate but we should also be accurate in our statements.

Finally, PKU maybe overranked at 17 but it is still far better than Fordham. PKU got so much support from the ministry of education and it has some very good people. In the area of finance and economics, I can think of the names like Lin Yifu, Zhang Weiyin, Zhou qiren, Zhou chunsheng, Chen zhiwu, Xu, xinzhong etc. they clearly dominates anybody from Fordham.

I hope BIMBA finds a better partner. Most people would say that PKU and Tsinghua are the two best universities in China. As a Chinese, I am ashamed to see PKU partner up with Fordham. There are also names like University of San Francisco and Loyola college and so on listed in the BIMBA program. It breaks my heart.

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leisure1221

Dear ckman, let me remind you again: Do to be a character healthy preson. And this is the last time I remind you. If you couldn't realize that, no one will help you.Yet I think you can understand according to your intelligence.

I do not konw whether you have some personal resentment with CCER or other dark aims. I just know that to demean and lower other school can never raised the reputaion of yours. Maybe you tell something you think is reasonable, but there is still a Chinese saying: 清者自清，浊者自浊。

No school can be prefect and no shortcomings. As I know, the BImba is continue making progress and improvement. you can never get any benefit from what you have said and on the contrary, it can evem promote the further progress of BIMBA and CCER.