求助：这样的条件申请英国的LBS，可否

wanglijie

求助：这样的条件申请英国的LBS，可否
13 Years work experience
former general manager and chairman of a medium -sized company
gmat 690
toelf: at least 620
bachelor

这样的条件申请英国的LBS，OXFORD，CAMBRIDGE 的MBA可否成功

chipmunk

I think you're a very good candidate for LBS if you have some international exposure or if you can prove to them that you would easily adapt to their multi-national study environment. They like a mature manager like you.

Not sure about other two schools, but you could send a short message to our CBSF member: zm. He is admitted by Oxford. Good luck!

wanglijie

I have more than 10 years international experience of cooperating with foreign countries

k2

agree with chipmunk. you are in as long as you do not screw up your essays.

wanglijie

thanks

Shuzhen

Basically you will be welcome at any top business schools in USA and elsewhere.

zhang206

First, if the company in the original post is a state-owned or unknown company, it will be a very hard case to sell regardless of your title. It’s a KNOWN fact that top business schools prefer people from famous foreign consulting companies or multinational conglomerates. In other words, it’s very important to have experience working in a recognized and respected international working environment. Coincidently, most of the candidates with this kind of background have better English communication skills as well.

Second, no, LBS isn’t much better than Oxford or Cambridge. Take O for example; when you compare the vital things, such as employment statistics, student quality, faculty quality, and brand name, Oxford is not behind in any of the above. Sure, LBS is currently ranked higher and is more recognized among employers mainly due to its longer history.

Allow me to get into a bit more details. 1. Employment statistics, O has sent its students to all the top consulting and banking firms you can name (this information is available on O’s website). As a matter of fact, 5% of O’s students are sponsored by Mckinsey & company. 2 let’s talk about student quality. I know many O’s students have turned downed offers from top US schools, Insead, and of course, LBS. I know one guy from US who has a GMAT of 700 and 6-figure salary and working as a manager was rejected by O and Cam, but admitted by LBS. I am sure that there are more cases like this. Regarding Chinese applicants, in 2003, more than 300 applicants from China applied to O in the first two rounds alone, and there are totally 4 rounds of applications. Among the admitted, there are a PHD working for a well-know pharmaceutical firm and graduated from top US school, an America Express marketing manager who came to the US during high school, and a partner of a well-know consulting firms in Beijing, and the list goes so on. You get the picture. 3. Faculty. O has already hired away many senior LBS people and most of the faculty members hold Phd degrees from top institutions, such as Wharton. Finally, brand name is something O and Cam have been and will continue to build upon to attract top students, faculty members, and employers. There is no doubt that O and Cam will continue to climb up the ranking in an amazing pace as they have been in the past years.

Finally, choosing B school is a very personal choice and getting into them is a total crap shot. There are so many factors going into the admission process and it’s practically impossible to evaluate a person’s chance based on several lines of vague description. As a Chinese/Indian candidate, no one can say s/he will be welcomed at any good schools unless, to some extent, you currently work for the top US consulting firms.

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zhang206

oh, since many people here are supposedly applying for b-schools, I am providing a valuable piece of advice. To provide a realistic, inspiring, and coherent career plan is the single most important factor in your application package. No matter how impressive your credentials are, you WILL be rejected by the schools if you can’t convince the admission officers that it’s the right time for you to study MBA and it’s a natural and necessary step in your career progress.

chipmunk

I always hesitate using English to follow zhang206's post. That's a lot pressure. Phew....

First of all, brother, calm down. We all know that Oxford is a decent school and it's almost impossible to decide which one is better, Oxford or LBS. Sure, I know someone who dinged at LBS (actually he is my buddy zm), but got into Oxford. I'm sure same thing happened to LBS admits (dinged at Oxford).

LBS has been ranked top-5 non-u.s b-schools for I don't know how many years. It has reasons. I think it's fair to say that both are great schools. When people come to decide which school to apply, it should be more about personal reasons. For example, 1-year program vs. 2-year program; LBS has good reputation in Finance area for long history vs. Oxford produces more GM type of graduates, etc....

zhang206

Chipmunk, thanks for your personal attention so far. hehe...