16年入学，金融类硕士项目美帝前50或前30，真心跪求各位有经验的学长学姐或童鞋们

dybeibei

lisohou 发表于 2015-7-25 01:47
很好奇lz的论文发在什么级别的刊物上了。

我发表在经济学刻心期刊上一篇，《当代经济》。
另外谈到专业的事情，我也了解金工或金数是对于想留美更好的选择，但无奈背景有限，很多纯金工项目的背景或者必修课程的要求我达不到，而且统计这类太数学的学科我并不是很有兴趣和信心能够读好，所以觉得最好的选择可能就是选择偏quant的MSF了。不知道你还有什么建议～

cheesechan

dybeibei 发表于 2015-7-25 10:04
Appreciate! 同意您说的有MSF项目的除了top-tier的个别学校，没有中上的学校开设，所以选择范围只能是在3 ...

The reason behind really few top tier US school have MSF is financial industry itself indeed don't need any graduate level education academically (which some master is so, not that much in US indeed) or technically (pre-experience MS, e.g. MFE), and those for professional / networking purpose all go for MBA instead. Academically for finance, one should go for things like (financial) economics,

Stay US: go technical, as technical as possible, STEM stuffs, related to finance. A solid MFE, master in statistics will be the best I guess. 競爭當然激烈, but that's life. 找好學校難, 找工作更難, 抽H1B就really need good luck了 (and that's why need a STEM one, potentially 29 month OPT instead of 12).
Is it possible to not go STEM? Yes, there're always than more than one road, but STEM is the easiest only. Accounting can be another choice for finance too (but again seldom top schools have MSA)
School就好就是BB target級別, 不到的話location極重要(close to finance center), 不要看ranking, 只要看tier.


Back China: simple, get anything related (economics, finance, accounting, management, OR, ....這個list 看target role job ad便知了). 不過個人覺得如果一開始一心打算回國的話, 可能申英國比申美國合算一點:
1. lower tuition cost and time cost
2. easier to get admission from better school (from point of HR) given profile constant.

peterdairui

GWU/ROCHESTER/BC都可以试试

cheesechan

dybeibei 发表于 2015-7-25 10:07
我发表在经济学刻心期刊上一篇，《当代经济》。
另外谈到专业的事情，我也了解金工或金数是对于想留美更 ...

quantitative skill 這個問題, 背景有限很理解, 不過最關鍵的問題其實不在admission, 而是在job requirement.
正正是因為美國不夠quantitiatve background的國民, STEM找工作才有政策優惠.

所謂偏Q的MSF, 只能是避得了一時(取錄), 避不了一世(job hunting), 結果問題都是放在哪裡.
遲一D面對, 不如早一點好.........

P.S. 另, programming比mathematics其實更重要 (in sense of job hunting)

jimmytiger

dybeibei 发表于 2015-7-25 09:56
几个银行的并没有做很专业性的内容，大致中资银行就是大堂的工作，渣打也没有很重要的工作，主要是了解了 ...

公司名聲固然重要，但是文書裏面你不可能只寫公司名字，然後什麽都不寫吧。所以實習質量還是很關鍵的。在麥肯錫掃地的，肯定不如在一家中等企業裏面獨當一面的。javascript:;

dybeibei

jimmytiger 发表于 2015-7-26 11:10
公司名聲固然重要，但是文書裏面你不可能只寫公司名字，然後什麽都不寫吧。所以實習質量還是很關鍵的。在 ...

嗯嗯对的，所以最后这份证券的实习会争取多做些业务性的工作，银行的实习多半会水一点。

dybeibei

peterdairui 发表于 2015-7-25 21:25
GWU/ROCHESTER/BC都可以试试

嗯，您认为还是希望比较大的是吗？目前选校范围里最好的恐怕就是圣路易斯华盛顿的MSQF，Brandeis和BC了。 您怎么认为？关于可以冲刺的学校？

dybeibei

cheesechan 发表于 2015-7-25 20:24
The reason behind really few top tier US school have MSF is financial industry itself indeed don't ...

对，您讲的问题非常实际，学习了！ 下面还有两个问题想请教：
1. 说到偏Q的MSF，我的想法是无论在美国还是回国找工作，还是能力最重要，目前对我难度可以接受又质量较高偏tech的可能就是偏Q的MSF了，所以您觉得比如圣路易斯华盛顿或是Fordham的MSQF毕业之后会不会在能力上确实要比一般MSF出来的要强呢？找工作是否有些优势？

2. 对于在美国就业如果不是top-tier的，location最重要，这点也十分同意您的观点。除了纽约，请问还有哪几个地方应该优选呢？ 比如华盛顿？ Boston我了解到可能对中国人有一定的歧视，所以在找工作上并不会给中国人提供太多的帮助和机会，请问您怎么看？

谢谢。

peterdairui

dybeibei 发表于 2015-7-26 12:13
嗯，您认为还是希望比较大的是吗？目前选校范围里最好的恐怕就是圣路易斯华盛顿的MSQF，Brandeis和BC了。 ...

WUSTL冲刺难度不小 Brandies早点申请的话不需要算入冲刺学校

cheesechan

dybeibei 发表于 2015-7-26 12:21
对，您讲的问题非常实际，学习了！ 下面还有两个问题想请教：
1. 说到偏Q的MSF，我的想法是无论在美国还 ...

1a. Q is only part of working ability, and in general inter personal soft skill is even more important. For those who plan to stay US, Q is preferred only because of visa policy reason. 誇張一點的說是, 編程(數學)不好, 就別只打算留美了.

1b. WUSTL & Fordham are not bad school for sure, but they are not target either. will have a very tough time (though still possible) to find a job. 我猜你現在才year 3 暑假吧? if so, get much more math/stat in year 4, and apply for a tier 1.5/2 MFE afterwards. 與其被自己的profile 限制了自己的選擇(and thus probability of finding a job), 倒不如提早把問題解決吧....

2. 想不到有其他choice, Washington 我會懷疑較多public institution (and though visa), Chicago is a good place but seems more for trading (i.e. where is your stat & data mining), 西岸估計多一點PE但是據說PE不怎招fresh grad, texas之類finance估計是有但FE就.........(but don't take my comment too serious as I had not been to US)
說到尾, location is important, but not as importat as the level of university (要不cornell就沒人去了), and not as important as the subject one study (if wannt stay for job as international)

P.S. my definition: UCB, Prinction, NYU, CMU, Columbia MSFE = tier 1, Cornell, Columbia MAFN and etc = tier 1.5, and etc...lazy to type, it is according to a recent post here.........