AIA13集思广益中参与讨论提高自己惠及他人

po_po72

我觉得要用英语的  要不效果不大

不过要是能慢慢攒起点东西

会是CD一笔宝贵的财富

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-5-23 11:00:01编辑过]

芙蓉菜菜

这个讨论我想主要是扩大思路用的，所以中文也可以吧。

这道题我反而比较同意作者的观点。作者说的是best motivate ，我觉得在解决了温饱问题以后，员工是比较care工作中的满足感的，这种满足感大多来源于非物质的奖励。

问问楼主，不知道和作者的观点相同要不要紧的？

oookk

1.yah, for this argument, the passage lack enough information to justify the conclusion,we can find the weakness of the augument.

For example,the extent of the awards is not mentioned here:maybe the sum of raises and bonuses is too small to satisfy the employee，or non-monetary highly-publicized awards is more worthy to attain....

it is hard to say which kind of above awards is more effective.

2.we can also mention the view that

judydongxueni raise aboveto make the argument more lengthen.....

小女公子

Position: Agree

1.      Monetary rewards is the initial motivation for employees. EX Wal-Mart

2.      Highly-publicized awards enhance loyalty and mental contentment. EX most company has its own highly-publicized awards system. EX Haier

3.      It is important to combine merits of both awards to achieve best motivation.

liliy4gmat

我想到一个论点支持money才是best motivated

原因在于non-money 对不同人的效用不同，不易做到公平和合理，也不见得有成绩的会得到明显区别于别人的奖励，所以还是money大家都接受，也很实用。。。

elite-william

design of the non monetary reward system is more difficult and risky to the management

coz unfair and unscientific design will be counterproductive.

当然上述这个提纲正反都适宜，反着用时，前面加个admittedly,后面加一句however difficult and risky it may be, the effort is worthwhile in light of the tremendous benefits from the non monetary reward methods.

kissmeyoyo

同意楼主的观点

可以用马斯洛理论~~

zf7615

non-monetary is effective, but not necessary better than money in all scenarios. which one is better depends on the actual situation. In fact, most of company apply a combinition of both awards.

1. non-moneytary is effective, make employee feel recognized, valued, blablabla...

2. non-moneytary itself without money won't work. people need money... money is a big driver... blabla...

3. The right policy to reward employee should be a combination of these two. need to consider a lot of factors to strike a balance. blabla....

西点

geographicly, in different country, different company,

personally, in differnet profession, different income level, different role people played, different sex

so  non-monetary highly-publicized awards maybe not so efficiently for different people. even is may be useful in some circumstance,  for managers , it is hard to make choice that can be more motive to their emploees . and the cost-and-effect system is hard to mesure.

obviously, money is still the most important factors

in sum.....

Cantaloupe

我觉得目的在于反驳这个论点的错误在哪里，而不是讨论money or non-monetery is the best way.....

我的提纲：原题意思是：雇主激励员工的最好方式不是通过提高工资或者增加奖金，而是通过非物质公开奖励那些表现突出者（如每月最佳员工，特殊的停车位，或者来自管理层的信，等等）

1、其中最重要的一个假设是员工认为非物质的公开表彰比涨工资更重要。但这个假设是缺乏条件的，要结合大多数员工的生活状况和素质来考虑。例如，举例Fortune500和小公司对比，主要是arguer也没有举出足够的事实来说明这种情况，所以这个假设有明显的fallacy.

2、即使假设是正确的，arguer所列数的几种激励方式的结果也可能有明显的不同，不能一概而论他们都好于增加工资或者奖金。举例......

3、另一个逻辑错误：A和B并不是互斥的关系，并不存在只能用最好的方式来激励员工的情况。还有很多种其他方式来激励员工，比如把解决员工两地分居问题，为员工提供更多参与社会活动或锻炼的机会，以及家庭活动日等等。现在，很多专家认为，只有把诸多方法结合起来才能起到最好的激励效果。所以，这种最好的单一激励方式在事实上是不成立的。

综上所述，由于各种实际情况的不同，不能简单的说B不一定是比A更好的激励办法，实际上还有很多激励方法也许能产生比B和A更好的激励效果。究竟采用什么样的激励更有效，应该更多地分析企业以及员工的实际情况之后再做决定。