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cheesechan 发表于 2015-6-26 12:37
there are lazy or stupid or naive or no-well-educated people in the world , 所以中介有生意做。
申ba ...

感谢您如此认真的回复。我觉得您说的很对，自己diy确实是不错的锻炼。但是您应该也考虑到有些人的时间是一个稀缺资源，因此想借中介之便，节省时间而已。如果只因一个人想借中介申博士，就断定他不行，是不是太武断了呢？那么中介帮忙申请上的那些去名校读phd的人成功毕业的人发过decent journal的人就如你所说没有well-educated？又或者自己diy的人都比那些用中介的人混的好？anyway，我们的争论其实没啥意义。大家互相虚心求教，没必要互喷。你不喷我，我不喷你。谢谢。

elsa1989yang

linkin99 发表于 2015-6-26 12:54
我觉得申请PhD最好也是DIY啦

But someone is way tooooooo mean there....

公道话

cheesechan

elsa1989yang 发表于 2015-6-26 13:14
感谢您如此认真的回复。我觉得您说的很对，自己diy确实是不错的锻炼。但是您应该也考虑到有些人的时间是 ...

當然理解有人沒時間所以想找中介，但是想想phd本身要用多少時間的話，如果有人連搞申請的時間都沒有(or 機會成本太高不願)，那個人會有足夠時間去讀完整個phd嗎? 99.99% no.

master不少人是混學位這個問題還不明顯...but phd is different

elsa1989yang

cheesechan 发表于 2015-6-26 13:18
當然理解有人沒時間所以想找中介，但是想想phd本身要用多少時間的話，如果有人連申請的時間都沒有(or 機 ...

我如果如您所说diy的话，我目前辞不了职，因为交接需要很久，可能至少一个月，我又要同时准备gmat，又要去陶瓷选校等等，可能要申2017fall了，就浪费了一年，如果这一年我可以因为中介抢出来，而后用来在学校和教授学习，不是更有意义吗？不过能不能请大神不要关注这个了，如果雅思7，gmat刷到700，100左右的学校有戏吗？以我弱弱的背景问一下。

shch11

elsa1989yang 发表于 2015-6-26 13:25
我如果如您所说diy的话，我目前辞不了职，因为交接需要很久，可能至少一个月，我又要同时准备gmat，又要 ...

其实phd的申请大多方向必须是这个小领域内的人才懂，所以大多数中介一般作用不大，因为太偏了，除非可以找到同领域phd帮你申请

省的时间是填表什么的吗？也不算太麻烦吧

hezusay

cheesechan 发表于 2015-6-26 12:37
there are lazy or stupid or naive or no-well-educated people in the world , 所以中介有生意做。
申ba ...

btw, I agree with you 100%

elsa1989yang

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cheesechan

elsa1989yang 发表于 2015-6-26 13:25
我如果如您所说diy的话，我目前辞不了职，因为交接需要很久，可能至少一个月，我又要同时准备gmat，又要 ...

1. Back to the topic, top 100 possible or not? Be honest I am not in the accounting field so I don't have much to say. Only thing I can think of is, I had once saw some "big cow" stated that in economics, school out of top 80 rarely have top research on the frontier, and thus it is next to impossible to find someone guiding PhD student to do top / good research, and thus the outcome of those program are not good. Not sure about the size of accounting faculty, but I guess it can be even smaller than that of economics....
i.e. I will suggest you to look in this number..........and seriously consider another master if you cannot get this standard (given your goal of back to academics after graduation). Cass is a good business school which have decent connection with industry due to location and being practical, but not that a great place for having master to prepare for academics.....
2. IETLS: IELTS is something one need to meet, but not something that can stand one up. As long as the requirement listed by the school is met, one can forget about it first.
3. GMAT: Actually I don't think GMAT is that useful.......in no sense the GMAT is an useful indicator of research ability. If I am the admission committee, I will look at the school, paper, empirical skills, and reference letter more than a GMAT, which I will treat it as some administrative stuffs.
But be frank I had heard of some case that there are really some business will look at the GMAT score, but as far as I remember they are mainly the lower rank one, and this comes back to my Q1: is it enough to prepare one to academics? If not, worth to go a PhD or not?
(master is another story, especially for professional master, when GMAT is kind of tools to sync the background of applicant, especially business master are in general easy one, i.e. no need a hard test on intellectual ability, but rather interviews and personal statement to see the soft skill / career mindset so that the school can get a decent working placement (and for the same reason top business program are likely to limit the number of international applicant))

Off topic:
1. I guess you are not resigning now, so busying with "交接需要很久，可能至少一个月" is something going to happen after you get an offer...........if you are telling me that you are switching a job now.......I will then say, time management is very important - there are something simply cannot be done together at the same time in life (or else will be in great trouble), e.g. get a baby while working in big 4 audit in APAC.

2. If you even want to 陶瓷, a personal statement / research proposal should be already piece of cake (if one don't have any idea about the topic, 陶瓷 is useless; and if one have some idea, a research proposal is indeed not that time-consuming but important)

cheesechan

RE: #10, #17
To be honest, I will consider during PhD application, 中介 is not only something 没必要, but something should not be involved, as PhD is exactly doing research on his/her own.

and this is something very obvious to academics indeed.....and thus I don't think stating that "those do not know simple calculus should not waste time to apply for a math PhD" is mean.....

It can be possible that someone's English is not good enough so need someone to check it (but this is not 中介, but just document service, and indeed already kind of weak signal as one is expected to able to write before PhD)
It can be possible that one need some one professional to consult during application (and dreaming that 中介 can do that), but indeed..........if one have the right background, one should already have people to consult within his/her own network already (e.g. classmate, previous teachers). if one cannot even figure any out of his/her pocket, one should really consider he/she have the right preparation............

elsa1989yang

cheesechan 发表于 2015-6-29 21:54
1. Back to the topic, top 100 possible or not? Be honest I am not in the accounting field so I don ...

无论如何，感谢回复。我尊重您发表任何看法的权利。不管您认为我是否qualify，我都会申请。