两题语法的比较[注意]:大全305，补充188+kaplan一题

merlion

sounds reasonable

1stzhang

1, for many travelers,charter vacations often turn out to cost considerably more than they originally seemed.
a
b they originally seem to
c they seemingly would cost originally
d it seemed originally
e it originallyseemed they would


ir is from lzm  e3-1(p38)
the answer is a.

pls check this one:

2.researchers are studying plastics that dissolve at different rates,and they are finding that the so-called "quick disintegration" plantics are taking  more time to deteriorate than:
a they originally seemed
b they seemed originally
c it seemed that they would origionally
d it originally seemed
e it originally seemed they would

这两个题目是这样的，（1）因为原文种只有一个复数概念，所以用they originally seemed
是没有问题的，并且意思十分合理（2）文中有两个复数概念，一般说来说这种简单的比较they就是指的是主语那么句子的意思就不明确了。大家之所以有疑问是对 seem的用法不熟悉，其实(2)的E答案的完整形式是：it originally seemed (to researchers that) they would。这样就可以避免歧义的发生。

1stzhang

补充一点：It seems that的that 是可以省略的，在语法中有这样一条原则：当主语从句不放在主语的位置上的时候，它的引导词that是可以省略的。

merlion

what's "主语从句"? "主语从句不放在主语的位置上的时候"?   give an example, please

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terrygoodboy200

2个大疑问
1.travelers,vactions 不是2个复数吗？
2.如果it seemed to reseachers that they would 成立的话，这里they 就该指reseachers而不是plastics,反而逻辑混乱.

1stzhang

merlion的问题：It is important that she loves me. 其实就是 That she loves me is important.it就是一个形式主语，但是由于it is that 句型的使用，使得that引导的主语从句不需要放在主语的位置上那么这时候that是可以省略的，所以It is important  she loves me.也没有错。


2个大疑问
1.travelers,vactions 不是2个复数吗？
就是因为有两个复数，那么than they originally seemed 这里的they优先指代句子的主语researchers，所以产生歧义

2.如果it seemed to reseachers that they would 成立的话，这里they 就该指reseachers而不是plastics,反而逻辑混乱.
如果你理解了第一个问题，为了避免歧义的产生。我们就用it seems that 的这种结构，没有任何逻辑混乱。这里的that 引导的从句就是一个事实，主语不是to sb中sb了。实在理解不了，就用排除法。

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merlion

that is clear, thx

midnight

以下是引用1stzhang在2003-8-8 9:23:00的发言：
2个大疑问
1.travelers,vactions 不是2个复数吗？
就是因为有两个复数，那么than they originally seemed 这里的they优先指代句子的主语researchers，所以产生歧义

2.如果it seemed to reseachers that they would 成立的话，这里they 就该指reseachers而不是plastics,反而逻辑混乱.
如果你理解了第一个问题，为了避免歧义的产生。我们就用it seems that 的这种结构，没有任何逻辑混乱。这里的that 引导的从句就是一个事实，主语不是to sb中sb了。实在理解不了，就用排除法。

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Firstzhang,  我同意在＂It is important that she loves me.＂中ｉｔ　是形式主语，ｔｈａｔ引导主语从句；但是在＂it seemed to travelers that  vacations cost ..."中，travelers怎么可能是主语呢？真正主语应该是vacations，还原一下就是vavations seemed to cost.... to travelers. travelers 是介词宾语，to travelers  介词结构做状语．

terrygoodboy200

1stzhang 先确认下，你的答案是什么？

1stzhang

1、第一个是A,第二个是E.

2、midnight说的不对，it seemed to travelers that  vacations cost ...真正的主语是that从句。你吧我说的理解错了，我说的从句中的主语，看来我的中文也得好好看看了