Stern vs. Kellogg/Tuck for Ibanking?

mbacn02

I didn't see any NYU number on this list, and maybe NYU sent too many people to Goldman?

I met at last four Morgan Equity Reserch CHINESE 2004 graduate, 2 from Chicago, 1 from Kellogg, and 1 from Wharton(?). And go to read Wall Street Jounal today and past weeks and you can find out what turmoil I mean.

We are talking about Corporate Finance (M&A, IPO). If you count any finance type of work on the street, surely NYU students prevail.

joshuatree

以下是引用mbacn02在2005-4-6 8:57:00的发言：

I didn't see any NYU number on this list, and maybe NYU sent too many people to Goldman?

Really interesting logic...  So did you see HBS and Stanford on this list?  BTW, Stern sent 10 graduates in 2004 and send in average 10-15 guys per annum to Goldman.

I met at last four Morgan Equity Reserch CHINESE 2004 graduate, 2 from Chicago, 1 from Kellogg, and 1 from Wharton(?). And go to read Wall Street Jounal today and past weeks and you can find out what turmoil I mean.

Unfortunately the Kellogg graduate you mentioned was recruited by Lehman, not Morgan (but what I'm saying is he was really exceptional. Lehman's equity research is no worse, if not better, than Morgan's).

Purcell's deals have been speculated on WSJ for months.  The possible "turmoil", if there will be one, has nothing to do with the argument we were debating on.  And I am really sorry to see you enjoyed cursing those people (some of which might be your friends?).

We are talking about Corporate Finance (M&A, IPO). If you count any finance type of work on the street, surely NYU students prevail.

Stern places 50+ people to corporate finance function at Wall Street's top banks.  Kellogg has been visible in the Street but your conclusion that it's more reputable than Stern in IB is untenable (maybe the truth is not, but you just kept failing to show any proof).  

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xiaoling

如果您的目标是进入wall street，根据我个人的经验可能在stern 或Columbia会比较好，不可小看location advantage啊，如果愿意申请wharton也很欢迎。

fearfighter

Seems all of you above are current MBAs and I do appreciate all the insights you have here. I want to limit my application within 5 schools to be better prepared, and sure other wellknown finance schools are on my list, I only felt a little uncertain about Stern:

whether the graduates are well received in the states AND GLOBALLY or

whether stern's strong hold of part-time MBA will distract its effort on full-times or

the part-time students (presumably bankers on the street) may intensify the job searching competition. I know I probably think tooooo much but I believe there's no such thing as over-researching, just to ensure all schools i apply are the ones that I'd go without hesitation.

Again, Thanks

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mbacn02

your logic is so right, NYU is as good as Harvard and Stanford. Congratulations!

I give my best wish and blessing to all my friends at Morgan, it is you who say I am cursing my brothers. how come a decent student can even use that word???

You always claim, without any support number from any credible magzine, your school website that how many people went to Corporate Finance. Again, I agree NYU sent sizable people to this area, now we are talking about chinese. Give me some samples that NYU has sent M&A/IPO to those bulge firms in the past three years when the markets were bad. 2002 2003 and 2004.

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amiz

IBD does not include equity research and sales & trading. Indeed, there is a "chinese wall" between them as required by SEC. In addition, in most major investment banks, equity research goes to sell-side (with sales & trading) rather than buy-side.

chipmunk

以下是引用amiz在2005-5-23 2:02:00的发言：

IBD does not include equity research and sales & trading. Indeed, there is a "chinese wall" between them as required by SEC. In addition, in most major investment banks, equity research goes to sell-side (with sales & trading) rather than buy-side.

Those people do talk each other some time, but have to go through their legal group and will be recorded.  By the way, in banks, research and sales&trading all called "public" sector, while corporate finance/banking is called "private" sector.  

jeffreyqian

以下是引用joshuatree在2005-4-5 6:18:00的发言：

To my understanding "reputation" here should not refer to how well people in this forum or around your neighborhood know a certain school but how well the top recruiters regard the school.  So logically reputation among applicants or even reputation in general management is really little relevant to IB placement.

A benchmarking info kindly for your reference: this year 3 out of 5 Stern 1st year Chinese MBAs are targeting IB for summer interns and they ALL get multiple offers from top banks under the circumstance that they are ALL career switchers.  The employers they eventually ended up at are Morgan Stanley, UBS and Merrill Lynch, respectively.  Some guy even declined Goldman Sachs' offer just for heading to buy-side.

Thanks for your kind information.

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