请教定位~

黑米妹妹

目标学校考量标准：

1、 healthcare program强，实战项目越多越好；

2、 consulting强，并有strong alumni；

刨CD帖子了解到Wharton, Duke, Hass等学校有相关的healthcare项目，想进一步请教CD前辈们：

问题一：还有哪些学校有相关的Healthcare Management Program?

问题二：都说wharton, duke等学校HCM项目好，到底好在哪里？能提供给healthcare背景的学生哪些帮助？项目各自的特点和区别在哪里？

问题三：或者对我的背景、设定的职业目标、学校目标有任何问题和提醒，欢迎指教~

谢谢大家！！

JonFrank

黑米妹妹 发表于 2014-8-29 18:31
Hi Jon, thanks for your reply!

1) about my career goal of speeding up career, as GM of my company ...

Hey,
You are welcome! I’m happy to help out.

So first of all I think if the GM of the firm is willing to back you up, that is GREAT± I don’t think that progressing in the industry you know well is too conservative. On the contrary, it’s a great idea!

Well, the idea of getting into the health programs is that you can build a LOT of amazing contacts in the industry. But you are right, that you don’t necessarily have to be a healthcare person to get into Medical Devices. In that case you might consider schools with Tech strengths, as that can also be a good alternative. I can suggest you schools for any direction you’d like to take your career - you have a lot of options and ultimately the choice is YOURS!

dl0222

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dl0222

GT都要刷，太低了
一二两种选择互相矛盾
选择三更是不可能
我想Jon是客气了
就申请而言，里头只有2是可行的
LZ本科是念什么呢？ why medical?
除非商管金融本科，不然goal写PE/VC/MC都会直接拒信
目前工时长吗？有做过工时一天超过16小时的工作吗？
不是你介不介意life style，就小弟经手过几位面试过麦肯锡的个案
光第一关压力测试就过不了，能过三关的都是非人类级，不是16小时工时一周七天连续五年
就是某专业领域的天才老手，再不然就是ABC英文好
何况是要在里面待几个礼拜几个月

家里有医疗领域高层吗？
公司GM是你的直属主管吗？不然这封越级推荐信是不具参考效力的
不过Jon提到一个重点，就是毕业后的guaranteed job，这点一定要有
如果GM真能有这个promise，那还有点用，不过整体推荐信还是没用的，因为公司越大，他越不可能了解你
奇妙的是，这些医疗管理项目都公布在学校网页上，怎么不自己查查呢？
了不起M7也就七间,s16也就16间，一个早上就查完了，同事主管问问也有
如果LZ自己看不出来哪间好，那表示why MBA还没出现，why now也还没出现
要判断一个学校好不好，有几个简单的指标
就是项目的招牌教授是谁
哈佛MBA是竞争策略泰斗麦可波特，虽然他的顾问公司近年倒闭
芝加哥是进商学院的左手边整面墙都是得过诺贝尔奖的教授
西北是营销发明人飞利浦科特勒，是八九零年代帮学校冲上M7的泰斗，但近年营销式微，因为薪资水平无法跟金融咨询抗衡，所以学校毕业生往营销的就业率只剩不到一成，往咨询却有四成

所以重点来了
LZ要有plan B。 GPA多少？有拿奖吗？
要是这些天上的学校客满了，还没招到你怎么办？
学校要你先证明你还是会成功，他们才会收你
另一方面，要是真的录取了以后，又该怎么办？
学校每年看过太多学生如过江之鲫，有太多是当初不想继续待原产业的，LZ貌似就是一个
不然不会第一选择就是career switch，文中也没看见对医疗到底有什么激情
MT不就已经是一种Leadership Program了吗？又何必要再透过LP回来呢？
对学校来说，在这样摇摆不定的生涯选择中，很显然LZ还不了解自己
这样毕业有八九成是不会真的回去的，那转职的风险太大，没办法保证就业率，就先拒信了
所以LZ要先深刻地找出why medical，跟你的成长背景或个性或个人经验有什么关系
医疗领域的未来在哪？为什么需要你？为什么需要这个学位？尤其在有哪些学校都还数不出来的时候
如果不走医疗，还有什么路可以走？为什么是咨询？
等到这些问题都回答得干净俐落不假思索时，路线自然会出现，why mba、why now自然会成立
毕业后也才能真正走出一条实​​际而成功的路
所以才会有此一说，MBA都收一堆不需要MBA的人
当然，因为学校自己泥菩萨过江，保自己都来不及了，哪还管得到你

McMasterMBA

楼主如果想来加拿大，可以考虑麦克马斯特商学院MBA的Health Care Managment。麦马的医学院是全加拿大最好的，医疗管理方向的MBA也非常强。这个项目是Coop项目，学习和工作穿插，毕业不但有MBA学位，而且有一年医疗行业管理的实际工作经验。到时候楼主可以再考虑回国，或者有好机会在加拿大发展。。。。。

dreamlander

黑米妹妹 发表于 2014-8-29 18:07
UNnews有healthcare排名吗？？好像木有看到诶

真是没有，记错了。不过这个领域有concentration的并不多，你关注一下官网，很容易找出来。
或者搜索一下关键词，似乎见到过有这方面的项目list。

黑米妹妹

JonFrank 发表于 2014-8-29 14:24
Hello there good sir!

Sooo my favorite goals of yours are number 2: Speed up career. These are exce ...

Hi Jon, thanks for your reply!

1) about my career goal of speeding up career, as GM of my company will be one of my referees, I could ask him to express willingness to have me back.  But here is my one only concern: would AOs consider this career goal too conservative, not stretched enough or less room for value added?  Since some essay ask what is your alternative option if your primary short-term goal doesn't work, I'm preparing to show AOs that I have a back-up and secured option.

2) Thanks for your information about healthcare program~ I'm curious about duel degree programs you mentioned, wonder if my focus is on medical products and manufacturers but not on public health, hospital management, is there any duel degree programs suitable for me?

thanks again!

黑米妹妹

dreamlander 发表于 2014-8-28 00:48
可以去看USnews的排名，有分专业的，Healthcare有独立分支。

UNnews有healthcare排名吗？？好像木有看到诶

JonFrank

Hello there good sir!

Sooo my favorite goals of yours are number 2: Speed up career. These are excellent because if your company will back you up, you will have a good and GUARANTEED job upon your graduation, which schools totally LOVE!!! So it will boost your profile more than the other options. As for Health Care programs, Wharton, Fuqua and Kellogg all have veeeeery strong MBA programs which incorporate a health care emphasis. Wharton has a Health Care Management major, with faculty from the Business, Medical and Nursing schools of the University of Pennsylvania. Kellogg has the Health Industry Management (HIM), really one of the top in the US. Fuqua had a great med school and is near Research Triangle Park, a heaven for healthcare job seekers. You also have Sloan,(Biomedical Enterprise Program) Haas (Healthcare certificate) and Columbia. If this is relevant you can also look into double degree programs that incorporate a Healthcare program with an MBA for example an MBA-MHA, or a MBA-MPH.

I hope this helps!
Best,
Jon

dreamlander

可以去看USnews的排名，有分专业的，Healthcare有独立分支。