Ten Myths that Kill MBA Applications

JonFrank · 发表于 2010-12-4 16:43:30

Hey gang. I thought we would share this PowerPoint deck with everyone. For those of you who have already seen one of our presentations in person, then you know what this is! For those of you who have never seen this before, we have simply laid out ten myths that many MBA applicants believe to be true about the MBA process. But...they aren't! : ) Hopefully, you all find this presentation to be helpful. Good luck to everyone as always!

Jon Frank

Hey gang--we received so many emails saying that some folks didnt have the right fonts on their computers to read the slides! And while it pains me to undo some of our super-cool formatting, this version of the PDF should be much easier to read. Thanks so much for the kind words, and feel free to email us if you have any questions about this presentation. Since we are accustomed to delivering this presentation in person, some things may be unclear. But we are here to answer any questions of course. And as always, good luck!

Jon Frank

Jerryxe · 发表于 2010-12-4 18:51:30

Great, thanks Jon!

jennifer1989 · 发表于 2010-12-4 21:58:49

THANKS~

BlackTreee · 发表于 2010-12-4 22:01:34

Thanks for your sharing

goldwings · 发表于 2010-12-4 22:05:11

tks! up!

goldwings · 发表于 2010-12-4 22:07:38

文字显示不全, 不知大家的如何...

maybe a PDF will be better, JF?

hand_nihao · 发表于 2010-12-4 23:43:57

thanks a lot

cannedpineapple · 发表于 2010-12-6 10:57:55

I disagree with #2 (“I am not going to learn a lot in my classes at business school.") , 3 (“Fit is not important, when considering schools. I like finance—so I should not likely go to CBS.”), 4 (“Schools don't want me to change the world. They want me to get a job.") and 6 ("Essay questions don't matter")- that's almost half.

I applied expecting (and saying) the #1 thing I wanted to do was to learn from classes; that I applied to Lauder and nowhere else because of fit; that I wanted to make an impact and not worry about getting a job (at most, I'd create my own job); and with a lazor-like focus on answering exactly what the questions were asking and nothing else.

In fact, re: #6, the adcom at Lauder always tells me that >80% of the applicants are qualified to go to the programme. The easiest dings are those who don't answer the question.

JonFrank · 发表于 2010-12-6 14:02:00

I disagree with #2 (“I am not going to learn a lot in my classes at business school.") , 3 (“Fit is not important, when considering schools. I like finance—so I should not likely go to CBS.”), 4 (“Schools don't want me to change the world. They want me to get a job.") and 6 ("Essay questions don't matter")- that's almost half.

I applied expecting (and saying) the #1 thing I wanted to do was to learn from classes; that I applied to Lauder and nowhere else because of fit; that I wanted to make an impact and not worry about getting a job (at most, I'd create my own job); and with a lazor-like focus on answering exactly what the questions were asking and nothing else.

In fact, re: #6, the adcom at Lauder always tells me that >80% of the applicants are qualified to go to the programme. The easiest dings are those who don't answer the question.

-- by 会员 jelt2359 (2010/12/6 10:57:55)

Hey there! Thanks for the thoughtful responses. Id be happy to help you better understand the parts of the presentations you have brought up of course. Take another look though at the sections you are “disagreeing” with—I think you’ll find that you are misreading some of our material dude! J Feel free to reach out to me personally if you’d like to chat more of course.

And while I was at HBS, I also thought (at the time) that I was learning stuff in class that would change my life. I loved my classes also! But now five years later, it has become clear that the classes were the LEAST valuable piece of bschool. And all my HBS classmates talked at length about this in our 5-year reunion. But again, while I was at school, I didn’t yet have the benefit of that perspective…

Regarding your comment re:#6 of course we agree with you dude! It is critical to answer the questions. We couldn’t agree with you more. Again, that is not the point of the slide. The point of the slide is that as you answer all the questions, be sure that you are telling your best stories. Nobody (I hope!) would ever say that any applicant should not answer the questions—that of course is not our point. All we are saying is that you need to tell your BEST stories.

eriod.

That is the real art of the MBA application process—telling your BEST stories, AND answering the questions—both at the same time. If you can do both of these things, you’ll be in business. Wahoo! But if you only do one of em, you’re in TROUBLE. Sorry if that wasn’t so clear to you my man—feel free to reach out to me personally if you’d like. Id be more than happy to help explain further.

Good luck to you my friend!

Jon Frank

cannedpineapple · 发表于 2010-12-6 14:30:50

That makes more sense. It may however also be true that you learnt more in five years than you did in two, simply because the time is longer. But I indeed have no benefit of that perspective.

As for the story vs question, I agree. However, my experience with 90% of the Chinese applicants on CD is that they come to me first with, "this is my very unique story. I'm going to write the same thing for all the schools..." And that is an absolute recipe for disaster. I can't even begin to count how many 'failure' essays I've seen that are success stories in disguise- though you've probably seen this too, since you suggest going for the bellyflop.

My point though is that if anything, the myth is that everything begins and ends with your story.

And thanks for the good luck. Not sure for what, but good fortune is always appreciated

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