大龄小白一只，各种纠结，请各位大大们帮忙

mousesky · 发表于 2014-9-7 13:25:33

先说LZ背景：
8月底二战，GMAT720；
T100+，不过快要到期了；
本科北清复交，理工科，但是本科GPA是硬伤中的硬伤，没办法，不是自己喜欢的专业；
国内在职读了一个MBA，因为公司报销；MBA的GPA还不错，拿过一等奖奖学金，但是貌似这个GPA对于申请国外的学校没有什么用，人家不认
在世界100强工作6年多，制造业，公司有美国军方背景，做到了经理职位
推荐信什么的不知道是不是亮点，因为请的是直接领导（VP）和北亚区的P写的，工作业绩比较认可
LZ年近三十，木有羁绊。大学里因为迷茫了很久，毕业后终于想通自己想走哪条路，所以一直想着去美国顶尖的商学院读书。

纠结的是：
1. 国内的在职MBA读完了，国外的MBA会不会因此而直接拒掉啊
2. 如果换方向，又没有经济、金融方面的经验
3. LZ有名校情结，如果花了那么多钱只是去一个二流的学校，还不如不出去。但是顶尖的商学院，GMAT720是不是有点低，LZ一直在犹豫要不要三战
4. 社会经历比较丰富，应该有不少亮点，但是本科GPA是硬伤怎么办？！有没有什么方法可以弥补啊？不要说什么让学校改分数，北清复交这方面做得是和国际接轨的。
5. LZ虽然工作6年，有了点自己的积蓄，但是靠自己独立支撑2年商学院的学费和在美帝的生活费还是亚历山大，听说有什么联邦助学贷款，虽然利息高点但至少可以解燃眉之急啊，有没有了解或者申请过的童鞋现身说法？

非常感谢！

tinaxueMIT · 发表于 2014-9-7 13:39:57

1) no. If your application is strong and you provide a good reason, then they will not reject you.
2) I didn't understand the question
3) with GMAT of 720 only ok undegrad grades, you will need to have very strong work experience to get into a top tier program. If you are only aiming for HBS, MIT, etc....then you may be wasting your money. Sorry but its true.
4) It is possible to make up for your GPA using professional experience. Was your GPA bad for all four years? Or just one year? Is there an explanation for it?
5) Unfortunately it is REALLY REALLY difficult to get funding for your MBA in the US. One way is to take out a student loan. However, with no citizenship or credit history, this will be a challenge. Many schools do offer financial aid, which is often need and/or merit based. But this is specific to each school. You should decide which schools you want to apply for and directly contact the financial aid office.

cgw81 · 发表于 2014-9-7 21:50:20

人家刷GMAT,LZ你是在刷MBA?已经有MBA再读MBA用处何在？读的相似课程，就为了名校？投入产出比太低，看不出这投资价值。

mousesky · 发表于 2014-9-7 22:45:53

tinaxueMIT 发表于 2014-9-7 13:39
1) no. If your application is strong and you provide a good reason, then they will not reject you.
...

Well, thanks for your reply and I hope your answers will be helpful, even if some of them may turn me down. Appreciate for your straightforward.

1. To be frank, I know the reason why I desire to apply for the top tier MBA program in the world. But I just cannot find a reason to convince even myself why take 2 MBA programs in my life.
Technically, I need the GPA refreshed, and everyone knows that the domestic part-time MBA means nothing but a piece of paper. But If it were you who have reimbursement for your part-time study and also have free time, do you want to have a try? Especially when you are only 25 and just began your career?

2. I mean there might be some other majors other than MBA in the graduate school of business that I can take into account. Well, yeap, I'm not quite interested in finance or consulting as a career. More concentrated on manufacturing and supply chain. I've learned these lessons during my part-time MBA. So just forget the question.

3&4. By mentioning the very strong work experience, to what degree do you mean "very strong work experience"? I've tried my best to be the best compared to my peers. No offence but it's true that the only way to surpass my achievement is to start your own business just right after you graduated from college, and I hopefully wish it still survives after 6 years. I was born and lived in China, not in the land of dream.

What a shame, my GPA is bad for all four years. The first year's is the best, and declines year by year. Major in chemical-related material engineering. Coz I'm still quite good at advanced math, better at other sociology courses, very nice performance in economic-related optional curriculum if you see my academic report. But compulsory ones, such as physics and chemistry, too bad. Never figure out what they want to say. The only explanation for bad GPA is that I cannot change my major once I entered the college. Again, I was born and lived in China.

And it's true that I am aiming at HBS, Stanford, Wharton and MIT, owing to my selfish arrogance. I think you are right and thanks again for your sincerity. But does it sound a little ridiculous? The business school reject me only because I don't know the f**kin structure of Polytetrafluoroethylene?

Remind myself of some unhappy time during college study, excuse me and I never meant to offend.
Well, through this conversation, I gradually find the dream vague. Might not be so bad cos giving up the unpractical fantasy can pave a new way. Just as my signature says.

Wish all the best for your life in MIT.

mousesky · 发表于 2014-9-7 22:58:22

cgw81 发表于 2014-9-7 21:50
人家刷GMAT,LZ你是在刷MBA?已经有MBA再读MBA用处何在？读的相似课程，就为了名校？投入产出比太低，看不出 ...

你说得很对，毕竟MBA只是一块敲门砖，是块垫脚石，哪怕是名校的MBA，而不是一块奥运会金牌。它只是让你有一个光环，能表明你有做成某件事的潜力，但并不能证明你已经成功地完成了某一壮举。
HBS、Stan、MIT、Wharton每年有那么多MBA毕业生，但真正能改变这个世界的又有几个。世界上还有这么多伟人，又有几个非得从这几个名校中毕业呢？
而且MBA本来就是一个商业行为，如果你在某一方面获得了举世瞩目的成绩，这几所名校根本无所谓你的那些硬件条件而直接录取。比如说，你是勒布朗·詹姆斯

LZ只是心有不甘啊，能上世界顶尖的名校是LZ从读书开始一直以来的憧憬啊，LZ自我感觉硬件方面真心不差啊。就因为本科时读了一个傻不啦叽毫不相干的专业，至今追悔莫及啊。

tinaxueMIT · 发表于 2014-9-7 23:32:21

Yeah...even though I offer a business doing this....I think its better just to tell it straight.

However, if that is what happened to your GPA, it is actually quite possible to justify your gpa. The simple fact is that you then point out your Concentration GPA and lessen the focus on your cumulative GPA.

Hey man...if you are 25 years old and that far along in your career then maybe it would be worth it. However, the reality is that funding for MBA programs is REALLY REALLY hard to get...like i mean REALLY. One potential way to make this happen is to do a one year Masters of Finance or accounting program. Get your OPT, start working for a company that may have tuition reimbursement. Some companies like Fidelity will offer up to 10K a year in tuition assistance to their employees. Depending on if they will help you with visa, etc...you may be able to do an MBA part time..or full time if you have the energy (you are only 25 after all). My husband did that and basically Fidelity paid for his entire MBA. Of course, this option is a HUGE time commitment.

Hopefully you will figure it out. Maybe it is worth a shot if you are feeling so unhappy. You never know right?

When I was working at MIT, I actually once saw an application that almost got rejected because of the GPA. Every single comment on it was...NO - GPA too low, TOEFL too low. But then one of the professors on the adcom was joking around with his phd student from Tsinghua. At first it was a joke. But then the PhD student said..actually my GPA was about that high in undergrad. If you reject him, you may be missing out on someone like me. Because of this statement, the application was admitted. Sometimes you don't know what might happen.

tinaxueMIT · 发表于 2014-9-7 23:51:57

sorry to spam...but IF your are that far along in your career, then I think the application fees aren't a big deal to you. If you are only 25, give it a shot. If I was you in that situation, I would give it a shot. However, I would still widen the net on the schools. There are some great programs at schools like Notre Dame, etc that have extremely successful grads. I've known people to graduate from there and come out with 120-150K job offers...which is even higher than the average HBS salary offer. The worst is if you reach a career plateau in five to ten years. Then you will only have less options and be even more stuck.

purplecici · 发表于 2014-9-8 10:24:15

lz, 据我所知，美国的top MBA基本是不接受dual MBA的，你可以再和学校确认一下，印象中Kellogg可能是唯一接受的

mousesky · 发表于 2014-9-8 11:37:39

purplecici 发表于 2014-9-8 10:24
lz, 据我所知，美国的top MBA基本是不接受dual MBA的，你可以再和学校确认一下，印象中Kellogg可能是唯一接 ...

嗯，这两天会去每个学校的在线问一下，确认一下。其实已经不抱太大希望了。

thx all the same

cgw81 · 发表于 2014-9-9 22:21:14

mousesky 发表于 2014-9-7 22:58
你说得很对，毕竟MBA只是一块敲门砖，是块垫脚石，哪怕是名校的MBA，而不是一块奥运会金牌。它只是让你有 ...

Lz本科已经不错，真心不用纠结什么名校。因为多一个MBA没有多少实质价值，毕竟你已经有那学位。但如果还是想体验名校，完成心结，不如选master某方向的入marketing, supply chain, operation research等。最少学到不同的领域而且便宜。

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