有么有加州牛牛，请指点迷津！！

茶壶头阁下 · 发表于 2010-4-28 14:14:33

很纠结，有人知道CSUF Cal State Fullerton 的商学院Mihaylo吗？这个学校在加州怎么样？因为学费比较便宜，我当然知道它没有UCI，UCB等好。如果和UCI比的话，毕业出来真的差别非常大吗？毕竟学费便宜了许多。。

还有就是，如果在CSUF和新加坡NUS之间选，毕业想回国发展的，怎么选呢？即使在外工作一两年，以后还是想回国的

多谢，随便给点意见吧

michaelchenma · 发表于 2010-4-29 02:58:47

加州一共有3个高等公立教育教学系统，University of California（又称UC系统），California State University（又称CSU系统），第三个是社区学校我就不提了。整体是UC最好，CSU差些。可是CSU整个系统都是加州人，所以如果你将来要是在加州呆着也还行。思科，HP里面大批大批CSU系统的人，架不住人家近水楼台先得月。但是你将来要是出了加州，估计CSU的优势就将差很多。完全看你将来准备怎么发展了。

很纠结，有人知道CSUF Cal State Fullerton 的商学院Mihaylo吗？这个学校在加州怎么样？因为学费比较便宜，我当然知道它没有UCI，UCB等好。如果和UCI比的话，毕业出来真的差别非常大吗？毕竟学费便宜了许多。。

还有就是，如果在CSUF和新加坡NUS之间选，毕业想回国发展的，怎么选呢？即使在外工作一两年，以后还是想回国的

多谢，随便给点意见吧

-- by 会员茶壶头阁下 (2010/4/28 14:14:33)

REgirl07 · 发表于 2010-4-29 07:31:15

Even though they are all universities in California, there's a large drop-off in terms of academic reputation, pedigree, and job opportunities. Even within the UC system, you see a large drop-off after Berkeley and UCLA, then again after UCSD, UCSB and arguably UCD. For example, all investment banks recruit at Berkeley and most recruit at UCLA for analysts, but the number of firms drops to 1 or 2 for UCSD, then to zero for all other schools. Think of CSUs as the most basic degree granting schools. You get a degree (MBA in your case), but there's really no pedigree and alumni network to speak of.

If you just want to have the experience of studying abroad, then it doesn't really matter where you go. And neither school is well known in China, so you wouldn't get much help in terms of recruiting anyways, beyond your improved English language skills. In that case, I would say just go to the one that's cheaper.

茶壶头阁下 · 发表于 2010-4-29 10:38:15

谢谢！原来UCI 在UC里不算好的阿.... 我原来以为还可以呢。加上 CSU的人一直在说他们学校在当地不错之类的，不过因为这个学校拿不到任何数据，所以心里没底。

yanpeng0523 · 发表于 2010-4-29 11:02:59

UCI有这么可悲么？毕竟是40位的学校啊

REgirl07 · 发表于 2010-4-29 13:03:28

UCI is not a bad school by any means, but it just doesn't compare to UC Berkeley or UCLA and still lags behind UCSD and arguably UCSB and UC Davis. But that's just general perception. In terms of business, I would say it's probably right after UCSD. I am also comparing its job opportunities against other top business schools, so it's all relative.

Historically, the UC system has been the best public higher education system in the nation. So schools like UCSC or even UCR, which usually rank toward the bottom of the pile, are still better than a lot of schools in other states. However, I would say the current fiscal crisis in California is impacting the bottom UCs, CSUs and communities a lot more so than the flagship schools (UC Berkeley and UCLA). Those two still get a lot of external funding for research, etc, but other public schools just don't have the same resource.

In terms of all the UCs, here is the general perception, feel free to disagree:
1. UC Berkeley: top ranked academics in virtually every field, long history, flag ship UC, usually ranked best public in nation
2. UCLA: excellent academics (a tiny bit behind Cal, especially in engineering, but still very well known), gorgeous campus, great location in LA
3. UCSD: great academics, San Diego is a beautiful place to live
4. UCSB/UCD: both are strong in engineering, though location wise, UCSB is close to the beach and UCD is in Davis...
5. UCI: still very solid school
6. UCSC/UCR: toward the bottom of the pile, but like I said, still good schools. UCSC has a great bio program
7. UC Merced: too new to comment

baystars · 发表于 2010-4-29 15:20:27

我觉得除了伯克利和洛杉矶，其他加大校区都差不多, 各有长短. 我映象中好像UCI商学院的某位教授前些年拿过炸药奖....

arthur05 · 发表于 2010-4-29 20:46:31

UCI is not a bad school by any means, but it just doesn't compare to UC Berkeley or UCLA and still lags behind UCSD and arguably UCSB and UC Davis. But that's just general perception. In terms of business, I would say it's probably right after UCSD. I am also comparing its job opportunities against other top business schools, so it's all relative.

Historically, the UC system has been the best public higher education system in the nation. So schools like UCSC or even UCR, which usually rank toward the bottom of the pile, are still better than a lot of schools in other states. However, I would say the current fiscal crisis in California is impacting the bottom UCs, CSUs and communities a lot more so than the flagship schools (UC Berkeley and UCLA). Those two still get a lot of external funding for research, etc, but other public schools just don't have the same resource.

In terms of all the UCs, here is the general perception, feel free to disagree:
1. UC Berkeley: top ranked academics in virtually every field, long history, flag ship UC, usually ranked best public in nation
2. UCLA: excellent academics (a tiny bit behind Cal, especially in engineering, but still very well known), gorgeous campus, great location in LA
3. UCSD: great academics, San Diego is a beautiful place to live
4. UCSB/UCD: both are strong in engineering, though location wise, UCSB is close to the beach and UCD is in Davis...
5. UCI: still very solid school
6. UCSC/UCR: toward the bottom of the pile, but like I said, still good schools. UCSC has a great bio program
7. UC Merced: too new to comment

-- by 会员 REgirl07 (2010/4/29 13:03:28)

说的应该是大学综合实力吧。商学院来看，UCI应该在第3位。

加州非UC系统和州立系统的，USC和Pepperdine如何呢

Sophiemba · 发表于 2010-4-29 21:36:52

同问

dorothyzm · 发表于 2010-4-30 06:44:49

UCI is not a bad school by any means, but it just doesn't compare to UC Berkeley or UCLA and still lags behind UCSD and arguably UCSB and UC Davis. But that's just general perception. In terms of business, I would say it's probably right after UCSD. I am also comparing its job opportunities against other top business schools, so it's all relative.

Historically, the UC system has been the best public higher education system in the nation. So schools like UCSC or even UCR, which usually rank toward the bottom of the pile, are still better than a lot of schools in other states. However, I would say the current fiscal crisis in California is impacting the bottom UCs, CSUs and communities a lot more so than the flagship schools (UC Berkeley and UCLA). Those two still get a lot of external funding for research, etc, but other public schools just don't have the same resource.

In terms of all the UCs, here is the general perception, feel free to disagree:
1. UC Berkeley: top ranked academics in virtually every field, long history, flag ship UC, usually ranked best public in nation
2. UCLA: excellent academics (a tiny bit behind Cal, especially in engineering, but still very well known), gorgeous campus, great location in LA
3. UCSD: great academics, San Diego is a beautiful place to live
4. UCSB/UCD: both are strong in engineering, though location wise, UCSB is close to the beach and UCD is in Davis...
5. UCI: still very solid school
6. UCSC/UCR: toward the bottom of the pile, but like I said, still good schools. UCSC has a great bio program
7. UC Merced: too new to comment

-- by 会员 REgirl07 (2010/4/29 13:03:28)

说的应该是大学综合实力吧。商学院来看，UCI应该在第3位。

加州非UC系统和州立系统的，USC和Pepperdine如何呢

-- by 会员 arthur05 (2010/4/29 20:46:31)

so by reputation, this is how I see MBA programs in California rank

Stanford (very strong international brand)
Haas (strong international brand)
UCLA (strong national brand)
USC (strong Regional, Southern California brand)
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the others....

Honestly, it seems that everyone has an MBA right now. So unless you get your MBA from the above 4 schools, it doesn't seem to make a huge difference which schools you go to. So if your target school is below Top25, the best metrics to look at will be the career center data. Try to see if those number look good and what types of jobs most graduates get. My hunch is UC systems schools will definitely be better than Cal States programs.

epperdine probably sits in between those two categories. just my 2 cents.

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UCI这么可悲么

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