关于that的省略请NN指教

090743 · 发表于 2012-11-3 17:01:46

Scientists have identified an asteroid, 2000 BF19, that is about half a mile wide and, if it strikes Earth, it can do tremendous damage to part of the planet but probably not cause planetwide destruction.

C. andthat, if it were to strike Earth, could do tremendous damage to part of the planet but would
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The bones of Majungatholus atopus, a meat-eating dinosaur that is a distant relative of Tyrannosaurus rex and closely resembles South American predatory dinosaurs, have been discovered in Madagascar.
(A) The bones of Majungatholus atopus, a meat-eating dinosaur that is a distant relative of Tyrannosaurus rex and closely resembles South American predatory dinosaurs, have been discovered in Madagascar.
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我想问的是相比较第一题，第二题题的第二个that 为何可以省略呢？还是说有其他理由在and后根本就不用加that？？
我的想法是that在这个从从句里的成分是主语，而相同主语又可以省略，那么是不是在asteroid题中正确答案c里的that是不是也可以省略，因为这个that也是作主语？？？
我的表达不是很清楚但还是想急求nn指正

lunvs · 发表于 2012-11-3 17:27:37

系表结构可以跟动词结构平行,即 It is a distant relative of Tyrannosaurus rex and closely resembles South American predatory dinosaurs.是符合平行结构的。
记得好像是宾语从句的话，从句谓语不同的话就要补that，相同就不补。这里是定语从句，是我的想法，欢迎楼下指正

090743 · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:01:14

lunvs兄多谢指教，不过主系表和主谓宾是确定可以平行的吗，以前翻老帖的时候，看到过有分歧
还有就是谓语不同补that同时使用在宾语和定于从句中？

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:03:30

that的补出省略只是一个相对的优化问题...（当然如果有两个that-clause的选项做出了split，还是要选最平行的那一项）：

quote：

Note that in simpler sentences, the common elements in parallel structures can be implied. For instance "I told you that I love food but hate water". In this case, "that I" is implied before "hate". However, because the two parts of the list are so close, it is acceptable to imply common elements. When, as is the case in the elephant sentence, the two parts are far apart, it becomes very important to be explicit and repeat the common elements in order to re-inforce the parallelism and make the sentence easier to understand.

OG12 #128为什么要补出that，和你问的问题是同样的道理

090743 · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:13:16

that的补出省略只是一个相对的优化问题...（当然如果有两个that-clause的选项做出了split，还是要选最平行的那一项）：

quote：

Note that in simpler sentences, the common elements in parallel structures can be implied. For instance "I told you that I love food but hate water". In this case, "that I" is implied before "hate". However, because the two parts of the list are so close, it is acceptable to imply common elements. When, as is the case in the elephant sentence, the two parts are far apart, it becomes very important to be explicit and repeat the common elements in order to re-inforce the parallelism and make the sentence easier to understand.

OG12 #128为什么要补出that，和你问的问题是同样的道理

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/3 18:03:30)

谢谢！！！！明白了，多谢NN
但现在困惑二楼说的，主系表和主谓宾能平行咩？以前翻老帖看到有俩NN争论过

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:31:33

that的补出省略只是一个相对的优化问题...（当然如果有两个that-clause的选项做出了split，还是要选最平行的那一项）：

quote：

Note that in simpler sentences, the common elements in parallel structures can be implied. For instance "I told you that I love food but hate water". In this case, "that I" is implied before "hate". However, because the two parts of the list are so close, it is acceptable to imply common elements. When, as is the case in the elephant sentence, the two parts are far apart, it becomes very important to be explicit and repeat the common elements in order to re-inforce the parallelism and make the sentence easier to understand.

OG12 #128为什么要补出that，和你问的问题是同样的道理

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/3 18:03:30)

谢谢！！！！明白了，多谢NN
但现在困惑二楼说的，主系表和主谓宾能平行咩？以前翻老帖看到有俩NN争论过

-- by 会员 090743 (2012/11/3 18:13:16)

一个是is，一个working verb

两个都是跟在主语后面，性质一样

当然可以平行

090743 · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:37:25

that的补出省略只是一个相对的优化问题...（当然如果有两个that-clause的选项做出了split，还是要选最平行的那一项）：

quote：

Note that in simpler sentences, the common elements in parallel structures can be implied. For instance "I told you that I love food but hate water". In this case, "that I" is implied before "hate". However, because the two parts of the list are so close, it is acceptable to imply common elements. When, as is the case in the elephant sentence, the two parts are far apart, it becomes very important to be explicit and repeat the common elements in order to re-inforce the parallelism and make the sentence easier to understand.

OG12 #128为什么要补出that，和你问的问题是同样的道理

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/3 18:03:30)

谢谢！！！！明白了，多谢NN
但现在困惑二楼说的，主系表和主谓宾能平行咩？以前翻老帖看到有俩NN争论过

-- by 会员 090743 (2012/11/3 18:13:16)

一个是is，一个working verb

两个都是跟在主语后面，性质一样

当然可以平行

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/11/3 18:31:33)

多谢传教，受益匪浅，NN好人，长命百岁。

lunvs · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:43:07

既然og出现了这个句子，肯定是可以的，但肯定不是最好的，选最优选项

090743 · 发表于 2012-11-3 18:55:03

既然og出现了这个句子，肯定是可以的，但肯定不是最好的，选最优选项

-- by 会员 lunvs (2012/11/3 18:43:07)

恩，说的在理

stt300 · 发表于 2012-11-4 23:15:08

不知道我这个问题是不是有点不值得问，但是还是有点没太明白。我查了CD所有帖子好像还没有人问到。请问A的but后面为何一定要补出could或者would情态动词？but不能像and一样引导的平行结构省略主语和情态动词吗？

另外，虚拟语气的could和would我一直认为语义上是没有区别的，那为何C正确项前面是could后面是would呢？是因为后面有probably，如果用could语义重复？因为我在之前帖子中看到Aeoluseros版主说may/might不能与probably一起，语义重复，would只是表个时态没有具体意思。那么可以理解为could和may/might表推测的意思差不多，所以不能跟probably？

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