【求助帖】一道prep和OG都出现过的题目，答案很费解

apple09031104 · 发表于 2011-10-20 15:40:14

Outsourcing is the practice of obtaining from an independent supplier a product or service that a company has previously provided for itself. Vernon, Inc., a small manufacturing company that has in recent years experienced a decline in its profits, plans to boost its profits by outsourcing those parts of its business that independent suppliers can provide at lower cost than Vernon can itself.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the prediction that Vernon's plan will achieve its goal?

(A) Among the parts of its business that Vernon does not plan to outsource are some that require standards of accuracy too high for most independent suppliers to provide at lower cost than Vernon can.
(B) Vernon itself acts as an independent supplier of specialized hardware items to certain manufacturers that formerly made those items themselves.
(C) Relatively few manufacturers that start as independent suppliers have been able to expand their business and become direct competitors of the companies they once supplied.
(D) Vernon plans to select the independent suppliers it will use on the basis of submitted bids.
(E) Attending to certain tasks that Vernon performs relatively inefficiently has taken up much of the time and effort of top managers whose time would have been better spent attending to Vernon's core business.
这个是prep0708里面的，答案选E我选的C
C:只是说不存在竞争，但是竞争和利润并无直接关系。但是就算是存在竞争也有可能成本下降，只要成本下降就有利可图。如果竞争过于激烈也有可能导致价格下降，利润损失。这个选项更应该属于evaluate 非常具有迷惑性
E:经理们解放出来从事核心业务，至少对收入是一个正向作用，因此不管成本如何变，对利润也是一个正向作用

这道题又在OG中出现过
Outsourcing is the practice of obtaining from an independent supplier a product or service that a company has previously provided for itself. Since a company’s chief objective is to realize the highest possible year-end profits, any product or service that can be obtained from an independent supplier for less than it would cost the company to provide the product or service on its own should be outsourced.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?
(A) If a company decides to use independent suppliers for a product, it can generally exploit the vigorous competition arising among several firms that are interested in supplying that product.
(B) Successful outsourcing requires a company to provide its suppliers with information about its products and plans that can fall into the hands of its competitors and give them a business
advantage.
(C) Certain tasks, such as processing a company’s payroll, are commonly outsourced, whereas others, such as handling the company’s core business, are not.
(D) For a company to provide a product or service for itself as efficiently as an independent supplier can provide it, the managers involved need to be as expert in the area of that product or service as the people in charge of that product or
service at an independent supplier are.
(E) When a company decides to use an independent supplier for a product or service, the independent supplier sometimes hires members of the company’s staff who formerly made the product or provided the service that the independent supplier now supplies.

OG里面这道是WKN选的是B

疑问:如果OG里面的B可以虚弱那么PREP版本里面的C（OG-B的取反）为什么不是加强？
PREP版本里面的E为什么有关？
求各位NN解答~~~~

apple09031104 · 发表于 2011-10-20 15:41:18

自己先顶~~

cleargo · 发表于 2011-10-22 11:12:43

一道题的削弱和加强，不见得就是同一个它因的正反面吧。

我没发散思维去想. 帮顶下好了.

darlingchum · 发表于 2011-10-22 16:31:10

第一题的的premise是outsourcing balabalabala，conclusion是boost profit
要想support的话就要找出outsouring 和 profit 之间的关系
c选项没有体现出boost profit的关系
E选项链接了outsourcing和boost profit 意思就是如果运用了outsourcing，就可以剥离那些低效率的业务，使经理把更多精力放在核心业务上，这样就可以使公司运营更好~（我想这个应该算是GMAT逻辑里默认的真理就是公司经营的好公司profit也多吧）

小我less · 发表于 2011-10-22 22:51:38

不可以按照数学的逻辑来做逻辑的……相关性至上

apple09031104 · 发表于 2011-10-25 15:09:07

第一题的的premise是outsourcing balabalabala，conclusion是boost profit
要想support的话就要找出outsouring 和 profit 之间的关系
c选项没有体现出boost profit的关系
E选项链接了outsourcing和boost profit 意思就是如果运用了outsourcing，就可以剥离那些低效率的业务，使经理把更多精力放在核心业务上，这样就可以使公司运营更好~（我想这个应该算是GMAT逻辑里默认的真理就是公司经营的好公司profit也多吧）

-- by 会员 darlingchum (2011/10/22 16:31:10)

好强悍的剖析了这道题啊。。。。谢谢了大神

大橘子 · 发表于 2017-8-10 09:12:39

darlingchum 发表于 2011-10-22 16:31
第一题的的premise是outsourcing balabalabala，conclusion是boost profit要想support的话就要找出outsour ...

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RichardVeritas · 发表于 2017-8-10 11:28:10

非OG题

Outsourcing is the practice of obtaining from an independent supplier a product or service that a company has previously provided for itself. Vernon, Inc., a small manufacturing company that has in recent years experienced a decline in its profits, plans to boost its profits by outsourcing those parts of its business that independent suppliers can provide at lower cost than Vernon can itself.

Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the prediction that Vernon's plan will achieve its goal?

(A) Among the parts of its business that Vernon does not plan to outsource are some that require standards of accuracy too high for most independent suppliers to provide at lower cost than Vernon can.
(B) Vernon itself acts as an independent supplier of specialized hardware items to certain manufacturers that formerly made those items themselves.
(C) Relatively few manufacturers that start as independent suppliers have been able to expand their business and become direct competitors of the companies they once supplied.
(D) Vernon plans to select the independent suppliers it will use on the basis of submitted bids.
(E) Attending to certain tasks that Vernon performs relatively inefficiently has taken up much of the time and effort of top managers whose time would have been better spent attending to Vernon's core business.

1. 找出argument & line of argument
通过把有些部门业务外包到成本更低提供商，来提高公司盈利

2. 分析逻辑
两个逻辑事物
A 把有些部门业务外包到成本更低提供商
B 提高公司盈利

GAP 找茬 - (有什么原因A推不到B) 举几个例子：1）成本低并不代表盈利高。如果外包后质量下降，售价下跌，盈利不会提高。2）如果外包这些部门影响别的部门成本上升，整个公司盈利不一定提高。大家不用在找茬上花太多时间，但一定要清楚看到A和B是不同的两个点。

3. 答案
E 答案 - V公司高层管理现在忙一些低效的业务，她们时间如果花在核心业务上更加有效 -》这些业务就是可以外包的业务。高层干inefficiently，外包就会降低成本。支持辅助A-》B。商业现实中也经常看到这样的运作。
A- 无关，关于V不打算外包的业务
B- 无关，V向别人提供外包的业务
C- tricky，有一定的支持，但是不太直接。C说独立供应商一般无法通过提供外包业务发展成为直接竞争对手。减少V对盈利的担心（更多市场竞争会带来盈利压力），所以有一定支持。可能不如E直接。另外也说明这个题C选项会引起一定争议。相比之下，OG题目应该更加严格审查过。见下面类似OG题。大家不用钻牛角尖，有争议的题目即使碰到也可能是试验，应该不会计分。
D- 无关。V怎么选供应商来降低费用，都只属于A范围内，无关A-》B。

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RichardVeritas · 发表于 2017-8-10 11:46:43

OG题目

Outsourcing is the practice of obtaining from an independent supplier a product or service that a company has previously provided for itself. Since a company’s chief objective is to realize the highest possible year-end profits, any product or service that can be obtained from an independent supplier for less than it would cost the company to provide the product or service on its own should be outsourced.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument?
(A)  If a company decides to use independent suppliers for a product, it can generally exploit the vigorous competition arising among several firms that are interested in supplying that product.
(B)  Successful outsourcing requires a company to provide its suppliers with information about its products and plans that can fall into the hands of its competitors and give them a business
advantage.
(C)  Certain tasks, such as processing a company’s payroll, are commonly outsourced, whereas others, such as handling the company’s core business, are not.
(D)  For a company to provide a product or service for itself as efficiently as an independent supplier can provide it, the managers involved need to be as expert in the area of that product or service as the people in charge of that product or
service at an independent supplier are.
(E)  When a company decides to use an independent supplier for a product or service, the independent supplier sometimes hires members of the company’s staff who formerly made the product or provided the service that the independent supplier now supplies.

1. 找出argument & line of argument
通过把有些部门业务外包到成本更低提供商，来提高公司盈利

2. 分析逻辑
两个逻辑事物
A 把有些部门业务外包到成本更低提供商
B 提高公司盈利

GAP 找茬 - (有什么原因A推不到B) 举几个例子：1）成本低并不代表盈利高。如果外包后质量下降，售价下跌，盈利不会提高。2）如果外包这些部门影响别的部门成本上升，整个公司盈利不一定提高。大家不用在找茬上花太多时间，但一定要清楚看到A和B是不同的两个点。

3. 答案
B- 答案 - 外包会导致公司机密泄漏到竞争对手手中，影响公司市场竞争。这样有可能影响公司盈利，所以削弱A-》B。大家看这个削弱和我上面举例的找茬有类似之处。做题时一般不会直接预感出答案找的GAP，也用不着花时间预想这么多，但如果你清楚看到A和B的不同，你看到有关答案可以支持或反驳A-》B时会很有信心的选择。
A- 无关。可以解释外包成本低，但那只是既定假设A，无关A-》B
C- 无关 - 什么业务外包，什么业务不外包，无关A-》B
D- 无关，要达到外包商的效率，公司负责人要像外包商那样成为专家。说一点支持可能比较牵强（不用成为那样专家可以省钱时间在别的业务上），但至少不削弱。
E- tricky无关，有一点削弱debatable，但是至少不如B直接。外包商可能会雇佣公司之前做这些业务的人。如果说削弱，可以讲共识这些人本来是重要的，被挖走，影响公司业务／盈利。但是另外一个角度，外包后公司一般会把这些业务裁员，所以外包商雇佣不雇佣这些被裁的人，根本不影响公司。后者更家符合一般公司外包的实际情况，所以E削弱很牵强。

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yayuxu · 发表于 2017-10-18 10:50:26

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