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天山 3 —— Q25-27 文中自相矛盾??

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楼主
发表于 2004-12-11 06:49:00 | 只看该作者

天山 3 —— Q25-27 文中自相矛盾??

Researchers studying how genes control animal behavior have had




to deal with many uncertainties.  In





Line      the first place, most behaviors are





(5) governed by more than one gene, and until recently geneticists had no method for identifying the multiple genes involved.  In addition, even





when a single gene is found to control





(10) a behavior, researchers in different fields do not necessarily agree that it is a “behavioral gene.”  Neuroscientists, whose interest in genetic research is to understand the nervous system (which





(15) generates behavior), define the term broadly.  But ethologists— specialists in animal behavior — are interested





in evolution, so they define the term narrowly.  They insist that mutations in





(20) a behavioral gene must alter a specific normal behavior and not merely make the organism ill, so that the genetically induced behavioral change will provide variation that natural selection can act





(25) upon, possibly leading to the evolution of a new species.  For example, in the fruit fly, researchers have identified the gene Shaker, mutations in which cause flies to shake violently under





(30) anesthesia.  Since shaking is not healthy, ethologists do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene.  In con- trast, ethologists do consider the gene period (per), which controls the fruit





(35) fly’s circadian (24-hour) rhythm, a
behavioral gene because files with
mutated per genes are healthy; they
simply have different rhythms.


文中出现了非常矛盾的两句话  


1。      They insist that mutations in
    (20) a behavioral gene must alter a specific                                                           normal behavior and not merely make the organism ill,  (即:可以使organism 不健康)


2。(30) ... Since shaking is not healthy, ethologists do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene.  (这里又说:因为不健康,所以不是behavioral gene)


应如何理解呢??


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沙发
发表于 2004-12-11 14:20:00 | 只看该作者

不矛盾啊
1。      They insist that mutations in
    (20) a behavioral gene must alter a specific                                                           
normal behavior and not merely make the organism ill,  
a behavioral gene 除了make the organism ill 还必须alter a
normal behavior,

so that the genetically induced behavioral change will
provide variation that natural selection can act

(25)upon, possibly leading to the evolution of a new species.


2。(30) ... Since shaking is not healthy, ethologists
Since shaking is not healthy
意味着shaking can not lead to evolution, 所以do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene.  

板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-11 17:45:00 | 只看该作者

hi,黑侠逍遥白沙,thanks for your reply, 你说: Since shaking is not healthy 意味着shaking can not lead to evolution, 所以do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene.  


请问:为何 shaking is not healthy 意味着shaking can not lead to evolution。


我怎么读不出这个意思呢?  


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地板
 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-17 11:29:00 | 只看该作者

whitesand, where are you? could you please help answer my question?

thanks!

5#
发表于 2005-1-7 04:33:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用createdream在2004-12-11 17:45:00的发言:

hi,黑侠逍遥白沙,thanks for your reply, 你说: Since shaking is not healthy 意味着shaking can not lead to evolution, 所以do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene.  


请问:为何 shaking is not healthy 意味着shaking can not lead to evolution。


我怎么读不出这个意思呢?  



回到这句话来看:
They insist that mutations in
a behavioral gene must alter a specific normal behavior and not merely make the organism ill, so that the genetically induced behavioral change will provide variation that natural selection can act upon, possibly leading to the evolution of a new species. 他们坚持“行为基因”的变异不能只是使生物生病,而必须改变生物的某种正常行为,从而使这种基因带来的行为改变为自然选择提供一个可以施加作用的差别,进而可能引向某种新物种的进化。

隐含着一个观点:如果某种基因变异只能使生物生病,则必然会被自然选择淘汰,也不可能引起进化。

6#
 楼主| 发表于 2005-1-7 08:00:00 | 只看该作者

tks


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7#
发表于 2006-5-27 17:15:00 | 只看该作者

They insist that mutations in
(20) a behavioral gene must alter a specific
normal behavior and not merely make
the organism ill, so that the genetically
induced behavioral change will provide
variation that natural selection can act
(25) upon, possibly leading to the evolution
of a new species.

Since shaking is not
healthy, ethologists do not consider
Shaker a behavioral gene.

二楼版主的解释“a behavioral gene 除了make the organism ill 还必须alter a normal behavior”有错误。

不是behaviroral gene有这两个效果,而是mutation有这两个效果。behavioral gene是不会使动物生病的,使动物生病的是行为基因的变异!这就解释了为什么ethologists do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene。

8#
发表于 2006-5-27 17:19:00 | 只看该作者

二楼的解释中有一句有错误"a behavioral gene 除了make the organism ill 还必须alter a normal behavior" 不是行为基因会make the organism ill,而是行为基因突变。行为基因是不会使动物生病的,这就解释了为什么"Since shaking is not healthy, ethologists do not consider Shaker a behavioral gene"

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