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Forget MBA, Be Realistic, circumvent it, come to US without wasting too much tim

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发表于 2005-10-30 04:38:00 | 只看该作者

Forget MBA, Be Realistic, circumvent it, come to US without wasting too much tim

Let bygones be bygones. MBA is not what you guys have imagined.


1. MBA cost too much. American universities are in fact nothing but profiteers although they claim to be non-profit organizations. Stunning tuition will make you broke. Unless you can go to top 10 ( should be top 5), don't waste your money no matter whether you have 800 on GMAT. You are going to waste more than 5k dollars on application to 15 top 20 MBA. Application fee is a great source for those so-called top MBA programs.


2.100K annual salary is boasted by universities to attract applicants. In fact, such salaries are for native Americans. For our Chinese who need H1 visa after we got MBA, it is extremely difficult. US is a heaven for ladies because they can be easily accepted by ghosts, sexually or economicly. I believe dinausors should all consider go to US. But they don't need to take GRE GMAT or anything else. Just try to register on US online dating website and marry ghosts. They can easily get green card and even money. Remember Deng Wendi who married Rubert Murdoch? Almost half of Shanghai women I met in USA are married to ghosts. They took their bastards and ghost husband to eat in the restaurant when I was working for tuition.


3.Circumvent the straight MBA track. Try to take advantage Ph.D. route to get financial assistantship while taking finance master or MBA credit. Graduate only when you are sure that you can get H1 visa and green card. This way is much more practical for you guys.


4. American dream is not easy to realize. I am not freaking you or preventing you from chasing your dreams. Anyway, success depends on your own perspectives of life. I have met a millionaire. He said,"in fact, I am leading an ordinary life. I can't take any penny when I die. I can't take up two beds at the same time..."


5. When we chase our dream, we become the victims of American Dream. New Oriental School, ETS, American Universities and even American Embessy are making huge profit from us. You will find out what reality is only when you come here and stay in this immigration prison for up to 10 years like most people( including me).


6.It is a pity for Chinese to chase perfect scores on GRE,GMAT,LSAT,TOEFL, ghosts never give you extra credit for high score on standard test. They rantion quota to Chinese, to Indian and to ghosts. Your applications will be put together with Chinese and Asian applicants group. You will find out that you are sitting in the classroom where you have the 800 on GMAT, Indians with 700 and ghosts with 600 or 550. Get your essay better.


7. If you do wish to attend top 10 MBA, never ever apply for FINANCIAL AID. They don't need a finanical burden. You can get a student loan only after you are in US.


8.Ph.D. application is due in 1 month, MBA is due in 2 months, be the first to submit everything. Then relax, either prepare for visa questions or prepare to be a corrupted communist officials or I hope you could be a justified good officials.


9.By the way, nearly half of ghosts who have been to college are holding MBA now. What do you think your future MBA will reward you?


Good Luck.


Harry

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发表于 2005-10-30 09:38:00 | 只看该作者
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板凳
发表于 2005-10-30 10:26:00 | 只看该作者

如果top商学院都在中国,我会更高兴的。既不要忍受难吃的西餐,还可以常常见到家人。不是所有的申请者都有所谓的“美国梦”吧?

地板
发表于 2005-10-30 11:57:00 | 只看该作者
真是"围城"啊!已冲进去的人叫苦骂娘,城外的人却想蜂拥而入.百分百的好事那里有?行动之前确保自己想清楚了,将来再困难的时候都能微笑着说这是我的决定,我决不后悔!
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发表于 2005-10-30 14:46:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用harryhu73在2005-10-30 4:38:00的发言:

Let bygones be bygones. MBA is not what you guys have imagined.


1. MBA cost too much. American universities are in fact nothing but profiteers although they claim to be non-profit organizations. Stunning tuition will make you broke. Unless you can go to top 10 ( should be top 5), don't waste your money no matter whether you have 800 on GMAT. You are going to waste more than 5k dollars on application to 15 top 20 MBA. Application fee is a great source for those so-called top MBA programs.


say $200 for each application, 5000 applicants a year. That is only $1M. They need to pay so many admission officers to read the essays, to do the interview, to answer your phone call and to do all the travel etc. And you are saying bschools make a lot of profit from that? For most of the business school, the fee is below $200, and the number of applicants is not even close to 5000. They will be happy that the income from application fee can cover their daily spending for the application season.  


2.100K annual salary is boasted by universities to attract applicants. In fact, such salaries are for native Americans. For our Chinese who need H1 visa after we got MBA, it is extremely difficult. US is a heaven for ladies because they can be easily accepted by ghosts, sexually or economicly. I believe dinausors should all consider go to US. But they don't need to take GRE GMAT or anything else. Just try to register on US online dating website and marry ghosts. They can easily get green card and even money. Remember Deng Wendi who married Rubert Murdoch? Almost half of Shanghai women I met in USA are married to ghosts. They took their bastards and ghost husband to eat in the restaurant when I was working for tuition.


I understand your point, but please watch your language and show your respect to others. People can choose their own ways to live. I know so many women come to the states, work their upmost to raise their families. For me, they are all beautiful.  


3.Circumvent the straight MBA track. Try to take advantage Ph.D. route to get financial assistantship while taking finance master or MBA credit. Graduate only when you are sure that you can get H1 visa and green card. This way is much more practical for you guys.


PHD is different route than MBA. Admittedly, PhD is an easier way to get the financial aid. However, people go for an MBA degree for a differernt need: a better network, a insightful business understanding etc.   


4. American dream is not easy to realize. I am not freaking you or preventing you from chasing your dreams. Anyway, success depends on your own perspectives of life. I have met a millionaire. He said,"in fact, I am leading an ordinary life. I can't take any penny when I die. I can't take up two beds at the same time..."


Even a chinese dream is not easy to realize, just as you have said "success depends on your own perspectives of life,"  with which most people in this forum agree.


5. When we chase our dream, we become the victims of American Dream. New Oriental School, ETS, American Universities and even American Embessy are making huge profit from us. You will find out what reality is only when you come here and stay in this immigration prison for up to 10 years like most people( including me).


I dont understand why when we chase our dream, we become the victims of american dream. what is the definitition of american dream to you? do you wanna become rich? do you wanna have a brighter career? I think that is not just an american dream, but the dream for everyone.


6.It is a pity for Chinese to chase perfect scores on GRE,GMAT,LSAT,TOEFL, ghosts never give you extra credit for high score on standard test. They rantion quota to Chinese, to Indian and to ghosts. Your applications will be put together with Chinese and Asian applicants group. You will find out that you are sitting in the classroom where you have the 800 on GMAT, Indians with 700 and ghosts with 600 or 550. Get your essay better.


I partially agree on this one. Indian GMAT average is definitely higher than Chinese because English is one of their official languages. In order to compete with applicants with a high gmat scores, it is somehow sad but true that internattional students (not only Chinese, but most of the asian population) need to have a higher gmat score.


7. If you do wish to attend top 10 MBA, never ever apply for FINANCIAL AID. They don't need a finanical burden. You can get a student loan only after you are in US.


Top 10s do offer merit scholarship to international students. And some even offer need-based scholarship such as Tuck. Everyone is eligible to apply for the students loan offered by the schools. It is the financial aid from the federal government that is not applicable for international students.


8.Ph.D. application is due in 1 month, MBA is due in 2 months, be the first to submit everything. Then relax, either prepare for visa questions or prepare to be a corrupted communist officials or I hope you could be a justified good officials.


9.By the way, nearly half of ghosts who have been to college are holding MBA now. What do you think your future MBA will reward you?


Half of american who've been to collge hold an MBA degree? are you sure?


Good Luck.


Harry


my two cents.


[此贴子已经被作者于2005-10-30 14:50:49编辑过]
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发表于 2005-10-30 18:48:00 | 只看该作者

不论是哪个国家,都会尊重真正的强者,那些追求真才实学,渴望通过个人奋斗实现人生价值的人;


真正的强者,不论在哪个社会,都知道如何最大优化利用自己的资本发展自我,通过为社会服务获得


生存和社会承认。如果你明白了这些道理,任何困难,曲折,或者选择在哪里奋斗,对生活的期望和梦想,都会假以时日的去克服和实现,如果你不明白这些道理,你就是现在在国内有个金饭碗捧着,你的人生迟早说不定都会出现问题。


MBA对每个人的价值不一样,但是如果你决心走这条路,楼主说的没有错,申请过程中要做好财务支出计划,有个成本控制的概念,而更重要的是,你必须从心理上和体力上准备好新的挑战,包括对异国生活习惯的适应,学会自己很好的照顾自己,加强身体锻炼,学会驾驶,英文的听说的提高。至于绿卡那些东西,至少对我来说是trash。还有就是不得不去拼高的gmat分数不要觉得吃亏,认真学习这对锻炼你的意志和提高你的英文水平很有好处。



[此贴子已经被作者于2005-10-31 8:26:57编辑过]
7#
发表于 2005-10-30 19:20:00 | 只看该作者

I have met a millionaire. He said,"in fact, I am leading an ordinary life. I can't take any penny when I die. I can't take up two beds at the same time..."


yes,but I can not afford a townhouse, a car, an trip to Pacific Ocean Island to learn diving or surfing. I can not afford golf, many things. Do care you family, although.

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发表于 2005-10-31 00:21:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用eeyupyup在2005-10-30 14:46:00的发言:


my two cents.





can't agree more.

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发表于 2005-10-31 02:34:00 | 只看该作者
楼主这个帖子也是可以理解的,受过打击,自己混的不好的人好多都是这么看世界的。
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发表于 2005-10-31 12:13:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用squirrel_hippo在2005-10-31 2:34:00的发言:
楼主这个帖子也是可以理解的,受过打击,自己混的不好的人好多都是这么看世界的。

呵呵,未出茅芦的热血青年... 你还需要慢慢去经历....

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