[求助]GWD25-Q13 to 15 文章意思不明

VivienZheng · 发表于 2009-8-21 15:37:00

Grassland songbirds often nest in the same grassland-wetland complexes as waterfowl, particularly in a certain part of those complexes, namely, upland habitats surrounding wetlands. Although some wildlife management procedures directed at waterfowl, such as habitat enhancement or restoration, may also benefit songbirds, the impact of others, especially the control of waterfowl predators, remains difficult to predict. For example, most predators of waterfowl nests prey opportunistically on songbird nests, and removing these predators could directly increase songbird nesting success. Alternatively, small mammals such as mice and ground squirrels are important in the diet of many waterfowl-nest predators and can themselves be important predators of songbird nets. Thus. Removing waterfowl-nest predators could affect songbird nesting success through subsequent increases in small-mammal populations.

In 1995 and 1996, researchers trapped and removed certain waterfowl-nest predators, primary raccoons and striped skunks, then observed subsequent survival rates for songbird nests. Surprisingly. They observed no significant effect on songbird nesting success. This may be due to several factors. Neither raccoons nor striped skunks consume ground squirrels, which are important predators of songbird nests. Thus, their removal may not have led to significant increases in populations of smaller predators. Additionally, both raccoons and striped skunks prefer wetlands and spend little time in upland habitats; removing these species may not have increased the nesting success of songbirds in the uplands enough to allow detection.

请教牛牛，

第一段黄色的部分意思是waterfowl-nest-predator吃mice and squirrel, 然后mice and squirrel吃songbirds.那为什么thus后面说可以通过减少waterfowl-nest-predator来增加mice and squirrel使songbirds nesting success呢？mice and suqirrel增加了，songbirds不就更遭殃了么？？

并且第二段success songbird nest的试验中，thus后面又说remove raccon and skunk没能增加smaller predator的数量。好像增加smaller predator的数量可以使得songbirds nest success.这是什么逻辑啊？读了好几遍都不明白~~求大虾指教，万分感谢。

VivienZheng · 发表于 2009-8-22 15:47:00

自己顶~~

VivienZheng · 发表于 2009-8-22 15:48:00

请牛牛指教~~

VivienZheng · 发表于 2009-8-22 20:51:00

有没有人能帮帮我呀~~

amumu · 发表于 2009-9-8 00:31:00

第一段：

“could affect songbird nesting success”只是影响，而不是增加啊。

我理解：

虽然waterfowl-nest-predator减少可以直接带来success的增加，但是这个增加是不明显的，因为waterfowl-nest-predator是opportunistically 的，而不是稳定的行为。

但是因为也带来了small predator的增加，结果songbird nesting success应该是减少了。

第二段：

Thus后面只是说因为raccon and skunk不吃small predator，所以small predator没有增加。这个没有问题啊。

而且第二段前面也只是说“They observed no significant effect on songbird nesting success”，也仅仅是effect，也没有说是升还是降。

VivienZheng · 发表于 2009-10-13 20:37:00

现在看明白了，当时不上道啊~~

BTW, ls一战跟我一个分数啊，单项分数也相同。。。缘分~

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gigi68788 · 发表于 2011-9-3 21:26:46

第一段：“could affect songbird nesting success”只是影响，而不是增加啊。我理解：虽然waterfowl-nest-predator减少可以直接带来success的增加，但是这个增加是不明显的，因为waterfowl-nest-predator是opportunistically 的，而不是稳定的行为。但是因为也带来了small predator的增加，结果songbird nesting success应该是减少了。
第二段：Thus后面只是说因为raccon and skunk不吃small predator，所以small predator没有增加。这个没有问题啊。而且第二段前面也只是说“They observed no significant effect on songbird nesting success”，也仅仅是effect，也没有说是升还是降。

-- by 会员 amumu (2009/9/8 0:31:00)

For example, mostpredators of waterfowl nests prey opportunistically on songbird nests, andremoving these predators could directly increase songbird nesting success.Alternatively, small mammals such as mice and ground squirrels are important inthe diet of many waterfowl-nest and can themselves be important predators ofsongbird nets. Thus. Removing waterfowl-nest predators could affect songbirdnesting success through subsequent increases in small-mammal populations.

文章确实很奇怪，removing predator的目的不就是increase songbird nesting success吗？（红字部分）

lixueni520 · 发表于 2012-9-5 11:07:12

顶啊顶啊和楼上同样的困惑啊~ 请问有木有帖子已经解决这篇阅读的理解问题了啊？我怎么找都找不到~ 望受过同样困惑的CDER指点迷津

lixueni520 · 发表于 2012-9-6 12:46:50

好吧我自己读了一遍又似乎明白了好像是这样子的

Grassland songbirds often nest in the same grassland-wetland complexes as waterfowl, particularly in a certain part of those complexes, namely, upland habitats surrounding wetlands. (交代背景，黄莺和水鸟的栖息地差不多) Although some wildlife management procedures directed at waterfowl, such as habitat enhancement or restoration, may also benefit songbirds, the impact of others, especially the control of waterfowl predators, remains difficult to predict. (移走捕猎水鸟的predator的举措对于黄莺的影响是难以预计的)For example, most predators of waterfowl nests prey opportunistically on songbird nests, and removing these predators could directly increase songbird nesting success. (一方面，正向影响，因为这些predator也会不是黄莺)Alternatively(另一方面，相当于on the other hand), small mammals such as mice and ground squirrels are important in the diet of many waterfowl-nest predators and can themselves be important predators of songbird nets. (另一方面，移走这些predator会增加老鼠和松鼠等小型哺乳动物的数量，这些小型哺乳动物本身又是黄莺的主要猎食者)Thus. Removing waterfowl-nest predators could affect songbird nesting success through subsequent increases in small-mammal populations.(因此，移走水鸟的这些predator可能会通过增加小型哺乳动物的数量来影响黄莺的成功筑巢(这里的affect指的是反向影响))

DeliciaAn · 发表于 2015-6-24 23:06:28

请戳这个：
解释的很明白
http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-261490-1-1.html

[求助]GWD25-Q13 to 15 文章意思不明

[求助]GWD25-Q13 to 15 文章意思不明

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