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[SC总结] [求助]in order that 和 so that 的区别

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楼主
发表于 2004-1-14 23:26:00 | 只看该作者

[求助]in order that 和 so that 的区别

请教in order that 和so that的区别.

除了in order that 比 so that 更加formal以外,还有什么其他的区分吗?

谢谢!
沙发
发表于 2004-1-14 23:29:00 | 只看该作者
in order that 可以放在句首,而so that 不可以,
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2004-1-14 23:48:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用woodlion在2004-1-14 23:29:00的发言:
in order that 可以放在句首,而so that 不可以,


谢谢woodlion兄.

我还想请教一下:

我找了一下:就发现了两个例子:

1\171. In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled so as to marry Anne Boleyn.
(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry
2\According to the author, which one of the following is required in order that one be a professional?

我想请教一下:
如果在句子中,in order that 和so that 还有什么更具体的区别吗?

OG 对 171 E 的解释没有涉及到两者的区别,只是说了E中的would用得不合理.

是不是这两者的区别,ETS根本就不管呀??

呵........

还请多多指教!

谢谢!
地板
发表于 2004-1-15 11:00:00 | 只看该作者
字典上的解释:so that   (1)In order that:(2)With the result or consequence that.

    揣摩中:in order that表示“以便于....(目的是。。。)”带有目的性
                   so that除了表示“以便于。。。(目的是)”还可表示结果(因果关系?)

    分析OG171,E选项的in order that似乎不对,似乎表示结果更好一点
    第2个例子没有context似乎不能草率判断。

     但是我觉得无论两者的区别在什么地方,总之不应该以此为判断选项正确与否的标志
5#
发表于 2004-1-15 12:28:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用woodlion在2004-1-14 23:29:00的发言:
in order that 可以放在句首,而so that 不可以,


以前我也曾经认为so that 不能放在句首,但og 177。so ...that 放在句首。
是否so that 连用不能放在句首.
请教。
6#
发表于 2004-1-15 12:52:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用qww在2004-1-15 12:28:00的发言:

以前我也曾经认为so that 不能放在句首,但og 177。so ...that 放在句首。
是否so that 连用不能放在句首.
请教。


这个是so + 形容词 + that的句型,不同于so that(两个单词不可分开)表示目的,而是表示“那么...以至于...”
eg: He is so naughty that I just can not bear it any more.  
7#
发表于 2004-1-15 14:22:00 | 只看该作者
八戒GG的问题可真的问中了要害, 呵呵, 我的一点拙见:
先看OG67
67. Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers (provide workers with unpaid leave so as to) care for sick or newbom children.
(A)    provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B)    to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C)    provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D)    to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E)    provide workers with unpaid leave and
解释这么说: in order that they, as used in C, is imprecise and unidiomatic.

再看OG171,
171.  In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled (so as to marry) Anne Boleyn.
(A)    so as to marry
(B)    and so could be married to
(C)    to be married to
(D)    so that he could marry
(E)    in order that he would marry
解释这么说:
Although E uses an appropriate conjunction, in order that, the verb form would marry is unidiomatic and illogical

比较了一下这两个题的解释, 第一个ETS就说in order that不符合用法规范且罗嗦, 而第二个ETS却说in order that用的很对, 问题在他处.

那么, 问题就在于这两个题本身上面, 我发现OG67, 施动者employers, 被动者workers, 而后面的so that从句的主语要求是workers, 这样, 造成in order that不可以, 而只能用so that.
相对的OG171里面, 施动者KIng, 被动者queen, so that的主语he(King), 这时in order that 就可以和so that互换了.
因此, in order that语气比较强, 对应的是施动者, 而so that 就比较灵活, 应用范围也比较广.

这只是我根据OG的解释自己推断的, 大家广泛验证一下, 多多指正!
8#
发表于 2004-1-15 14:41:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用rabbitbug在2004-1-15 14:22:00的发言:
八戒GG的问题可真的问中了要害, 呵呵, 我的一点拙见:
先看OG67
67. Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers (provide workers with unpaid leave so as to) care for sick or newbom children.
(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and
解释这么说: in order that they, as used in C, is imprecise and unidiomatic.

再看OG171,
171.  In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled (so as to marry) Anne Boleyn.
(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry
解释这么说:
Although E uses an appropriate conjunction, in order that, the verb form would marry is unidiomatic and illogical

比较了一下这两个题的解释, 第一个ETS就说in order that不符合用法规范且罗嗦, 而第二个ETS却说in order that用的很对, 问题在他处.

那么, 问题就在于这两个题本身上面, 我发现OG67, 施动者employers, 被动者workers, 而后面的so that从句的主语要求是workers, 这样, 造成in order that不可以, 而只能用so that.
相对的OG171里面, 施动者KIng, 被动者queen, so that的主语he(King), 这时in order that 就可以和so that互换了.
因此, in order that语气比较强, 对应的是施动者, 而so that 就比较灵活, 应用范围也比较广.

这只是我根据OG的解释自己推断的, 大家广泛验证一下, 多多指正!


俺凭空感觉好像是这样,听rabbitbug的一番话,才理清思路

举脚同意JJ的分析,果然很有条理,很清晰,受益啊~~~~
9#
发表于 2004-1-15 15:37:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用rabbitbug在2004-1-15 14:22:00的发言:
八戒GG的问题可真的问中了要害, 呵呵, 我的一点拙见:
先看OG67
67. Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers (provide workers with unpaid leave so as to) care for sick or newbom children.
(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and
解释这么说: in order that they, as used in C, is imprecise and unidiomatic.

再看OG171,
171.  In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled (so as to marry) Anne Boleyn.
(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry
解释这么说:
Although E uses an appropriate conjunction, in order that, the verb form would marry is unidiomatic and illogical

比较了一下这两个题的解释, 第一个ETS就说in order that不符合用法规范且罗嗦, 而第二个ETS却说in order that用的很对, 问题在他处.

那么, 问题就在于这两个题本身上面, 我发现OG67, 施动者employers, 被动者workers, 而后面的so that从句的主语要求是workers, 这样, 造成in order that不可以, 而只能用so that.
相对的OG171里面, 施动者KIng, 被动者queen, so that的主语he(King), 这时in order that 就可以和so that互换了.
因此, in order that语气比较强, 对应的是施动者, 而so that 就比较灵活, 应用范围也比较广.

这只是我根据OG的解释自己推断的, 大家广泛验证一下, 多多指正!

拜服!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2004-1-15 23:24:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用rabbitbug在2004-1-15 14:22:00的发言:
八戒GG的问题可真的问中了要害, 呵呵, 我的一点拙见:
先看OG67
67. Congress is debating a bill requiring certain employers (provide workers with unpaid leave so as to) care for sick or newbom children.
(A) provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(B) to provide workers with unpaid leave so as to
(C) provide workers with unpaid leave in order that they
(D) to provide workers with unpaid leave so that they can
(E) provide workers with unpaid leave and
解释这么说: in order that they, as used in C, is imprecise and unidiomatic.

再看OG171,
171.  In 1527 King Henry VIII sought to have his marriage to Queen Catherine annulled (so as to marry) Anne Boleyn.
(A) so as to marry
(B) and so could be married to
(C) to be married to
(D) so that he could marry
(E) in order that he would marry
解释这么说:
Although E uses an appropriate conjunction, in order that, the verb form would marry is unidiomatic and illogical

比较了一下这两个题的解释, 第一个ETS就说in order that不符合用法规范且罗嗦, 而第二个ETS却说in order that用的很对, 问题在他处.

那么, 问题就在于这两个题本身上面, 我发现OG67, 施动者employers, 被动者workers, 而后面的so that从句的主语要求是workers, 这样, 造成in order that不可以, 而只能用so that.
相对的OG171里面, 施动者KIng, 被动者queen, so that的主语he(King), 这时in order that 就可以和so that互换了.
因此, in order that语气比较强, 对应的是施动者, 而so that 就比较灵活, 应用范围也比较广.

这只是我根据OG的解释自己推断的, 大家广泛验证一下, 多多指正!


多谢!

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