求问：30岁后去欧洲读MBA/MSF？

fuqiangping

我的经历：
（1）985前十经济学本科毕业，23岁；
（2）两年国内某会计师事务所工作经历，25岁；
（3）然后考研又读了三年的经济学硕士；
（4）现在快28岁了，即将毕业，准备去一家国内知名证券公司，类投行业务。

我的条件：
英语一般，不过相信能抓起来；西班牙语初级水平，两年后争取到中级水平；目前在考CPA、CFA，两三年之后应该都考得差不多了。

我的愿望：
决定两三年后（30-31岁）去欧洲读MSF，职业方向不变，只是单纯想出国，我不想还没有看世界就这样待在国内一辈子。然后希望一辈子留在国外，以后去欧洲工作，去美洲工作，去亚太工作，当然依然类投行业务（IBD、PE、VC等）。

P.S.恋爱、结婚之类的等出国后再解决，可以找个妹子在外面一起飘；先去欧洲飘几年，再去美洲飘几年，再去亚太飘几年，工作+看世界两不耽误。老了退休了就回来，一边写传记记录我华丽的一生，一边等死。

那么，问题来了。。。

（1）对我这种没有留学经历、也没有外企经历的土鳖，申请欧洲的好一点的商学院（比如IESE之类的）有希望么？
（2）就算成功读了一个MSF，那时候也应该32-33岁了，对于我这种高龄人士，找工作能留在欧洲么？是不是没什么希望的？

cheesechan

1. with related working experience, you should be able to leverage it for a job in Europe, but language is a barrier for sure.
2. think twice and think twice and think twice before go to Spain if you plan to work in finance........a bit way too exaggerated but I will say it is a better idea to throw the $$ into the sea......at least you hear the interesting sound.........
3. 恋爱、结婚之类的等出国后再解决 <-- planning is necessary, but life is always unexpected.......you will never know.

fuqiangping

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fuqiangping

cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-21 21:27
1. with related working experience, you should be able to leverage it for a job in Europe, but langu ...

1. 能找到工作就行，语言靠自己啦；
2. 西班牙金融不行，我就去伦敦，再不行法国，再不行新加坡，再不行香港。反正不是大陆。
3. 老婆的事，也许吧。但我还是要出国的！

cheesechan

fuqiangping 发表于 2015-4-22 02:08
1. 能找到工作就行，语言靠自己啦；
2. 西班牙金融不行，我就去伦敦，再不行法国，再不行新加坡，再不行 ...

1. that's for sure. what I want to say is.......if you plan to go France, you can try to take up French starting now, or if you plan to go German, you can start to take up Deutsch now. Italian, and Spainish is not really preferred / useful for this purpoes. and language (and culture) is the most important things to make up unless you are in a really technical role.
2. the point here I want to say is, forget about IESE. (and IE / ESADE)
3. If yon plan to have a choice in HK/SG, school in UK are highly preferred.

fuqiangping

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fuqiangping

cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-22 02:38
1. that's for sure. what I want to say is.......if you plan to go France, you can try to take up F ...

考虑西班牙的学校呢，主要是觉得刚好学了西语，不想浪费掉。IESE、IE、ESADE读了，去欧洲以外的地方工作可能确实没有帮助。可是如果去伦敦也不好找工作么？是不是还不如英国5-10名的学校呢？

cheesechan

fuqiangping 发表于 2015-4-22 02:54
考虑西班牙的学校呢，主要是觉得刚好学了西语，不想浪费掉。 IESE、IE、ESADE读了，欧洲以外可能确实没有帮 ...

1. Assuming you are working in London (or elsewhere in Europe), Spainish are next to useless for financial industry. 不是完全沒有(例如要和西班牙的客人溝通吧), 但要找也得先找西班牙人啦, 別提一堆歐陸人會以西班牙語作second / third language.
2. If you plan to work in Spain........well.......is that a joke?
i.e. the language is next to useless in career sense.

Spainish business school are good one for sure, but none of them are famous in finance. for example, IE is most famous for enterpriseship. In additional, they also have a very top reputation in Spainish-speaking region, i.e. all are poor place in financial industry.
當你能拿到IE(for example)的offer的時候, 很大機會你也能拿到其在英國同等級別的business school offer. 但是一計距離, 校友網絡, 金融專業, 自然不會在動機去西班牙的了.

Given your expeced profile, I guess you won't be willing to apply out of top 4/6 in UK, top 2 in France, and top 1 in a couples European continental country.........

P.S. 其實post experience 的master in finance, 加上MBA that are good in finance的, 數起來也不多:
LBS MBA, MiF
Oxford MBA
Cambridge MFin
LSE MSF
HEC MBA
INSEAD MBA / MFin
再加上該區有regional 用途的如RSM MBA, UvA MIF, HSG MBA..........
除了轉technical的program之外, 我猜我漏了的不太多.......

fuqiangping

cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-22 03:05
1. Assuming you are working in London (or elsewhere in Europe), Spainish are next to useless for f ...

嗯，明白了，解决了我一些疑惑。既然如此，那我还是首选UK啦，TOP4为目标！这几年还得努力，提高各方面实力，杀G！谢谢你喔，晚安晚安！

fuqiangping

cheesechan 发表于 2015-4-22 03:05
1. Assuming you are working in London (or elsewhere in Europe), Spainish are next to useless for f ...

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