忠言：致中国大陆申请者

getreal

sigh. young man. you will know over time.

by the way, the writer's background: current second year student at top 5; have been in the states more than 5 years, and fortunately, have realized no chance to speaking english as good as americans.

best of luck.

zhang206

以下是引用getreal在2003-8-1 5:52:00的发言：
sigh. young man. you will know over time.

by the way, the writer's background: current second year student at top 5; have been in the states more than 5 years, and fortunately, have realized no chance to speaking english as good as americans.

best of luck.

I highly doubt you are what you claim to be. but good luck to you too.

btw, there is no such thing as a "top 5". there is HBS, and there are others. it's espeically ture in the current economy.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-8-1 6:01:34编辑过]

usdusaj

大家不访讨论一下top20 的米过学校适合那些人读吧。

chipmunk

Let me give it a shot. Top-20 for those who is interested in IB, MC or VC types of career. Again, it's just my own opinion. Open to discuss.

kethy

以下是引用getreal在2003-8-1 5:52:00的发言：
sigh. young man. you will know over time.

by the way, the writer's background: current second year student at top 5; have been in the states more than 5 years, and fortunately, have realized no chance to speaking english as good as americans.

best of luck.

Well, been in United States for 5 years doesn't mean you are supervior than those in China right now in the point of view of work, life, or other more struggling issues in MBA programs. Surely you have your own attitudes towards the MBA programs, towards the future about Chinese in America, but hey, maybe these attitudes will change a couple of years later. So please, don't be so cynical and pour your words into others' minds. For your reference, I've been here for 6 years.

Just as Lanlan said, different people have different values of life. While you concern your future totally on a ROI respect, the others may consider this MBA stuff an oppertunity for them to change their life, or just to start a new career, or even simpler, just to change a job. What's wrong with that? Be a mechanical engineer, be a software engineer, be an accountant, be a mid-level manager, be whatever you want to be, nothing more, nothing less. MBA is not a big deal in this sense, probably.

Also, don't try to frustrate others from your own experience. It is very difficult for us to speak English as smoothly as native speakers. But is it possible? Well, I still believes that some person can do this, even now it's not me. Besides, English is not the only most important requirements for your networking ability. Some native english speakers still have difficulties in networking, while I saw so many outstanding Chinese managers, professors, and all others who are excellent in their fields.

Do whatever you want to do, and do it well. If you cannot, it's ok, just relax and enjoy your normal life, just like millions of others. But be happy, be positive, and good luck.

greattaste

Let me give it a shot. Top-20 for those who is interested in IB, MC or VC types of career. Again, it's just my own opinion. Open to discuss.
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What I heard from resources is that Top 20 is nothing if you want to break into IB, MC. The basic requirements are you need to be at M7 and better have working experiences in the field, otherwise your chances will be very slim.

BTW the above "requirements" are for native Americans. Dont know the situation for Chinese is better or worse.

Personally I think MNCs will be the main recruiters for top-20 b-school graduates in the coming years. Dont know what will happen when US economy turns hot again. But I highly doubt MC will be such an attractive industry for MBAs unless there is another wave like Internet booming.

funnytiger

来美有七年了， 让我来给大家提供一点我所知道的东西

的确有中国人能把英文说的非常的好（少说我也认识十来个）， 好到美国人以为他们是ABC， 但是好象他们在中国的时候英文就非常好， 这种人不知道各位在中国有没有碰到。

中国留学生有两大关， 语言关只是其中的一个， 还有就是身份关， 这可能是最大的关。 名校的学生的优势是， 公司一般都觉得愿意投资让你办身份。

还有一点是， 很多中国人在美国过得其实很一般， 可是回国的时候碍于面子， 把自己的生活美好化， 专找社会基础差别来说， 比如说大斯宣扬自己在美国的房子， 要知道除了一些特别的城市， 其他地方的房子相对收入来说不是什么特大投资。

我虽觉得这篇文章有片面性， 但是对于我在上海， 北京和深圳， 月薪上万的朋友， 却是值得推荐的。 而碰巧我在中国认识的大多都是这样的人， 所以我已经把此文发给他们了

tsljz

In such an economy, many chinese students head to corporate finance, operation management and financial analysis jobs. Don't know how things are going to be IF the US economy gets better. But don't think MC can catch up with the booming days unless there is another wave.

Jeremy

Sharp and passionate conter criticism.  Everyone has the right to freely express herself, but can all of us try to avoid personal comments?

Getreal's message is thoughts provoking.

以下是引用zhang206在2003-8-1 5:18:00的发言：



an article written by a person with extreme narrow-mindedness, partial and biased observation, and unconcealed jealous. I don’t want to go into details, but will just provide a couple of factual points. First, yes, many Chinese students have excellent English skills. The fact that the author can’t speak fluent English doesn’t mean every Chinese does the same. As a matter of fact, I personally know many Chinese mainlanders possess superior English communication skills despite the fact that they came to the US long after the age of 13. (btw, how did this person come up with number?) Second, many Chinese successfully landed high-paying corporate jobs in the US and China.  

Finally, nobody has the right to decide for others what to do and what not to do. We all need to learn how to respect and appreciate others.

[此贴子已经被作者于2003-8-5 21:59:19编辑过]

k2

a person with extreme narrow-mindedness, partial and biased observation, and unconcealed jealous.

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Yeah. quiet personal. hope folks here be friendly.