长江2005学费22万RMB

落花流水

我相信中欧和科大也能提供一堆这样头衔的教授。

grossman

List of Professors from CKGSB and schools that they have tenure track positions:

Operations management

Chen, Hong,  University of British Columbia, HKUST

Zheng, Yusheng,Wharton.

Li, Lide,  MIT, Yale University.

Finance,

Lang, Hsieng-Ping,  Chinese U.HK, NYU,  Michigan State and Ohio State.

Huang, Ming, Stanford. Chicago

Cao, Huining, UC Berkeley and UNC, Chapel Hill.

Marketing,

Jiang, jeongwen, Washington University at St Louis, HKUST and NUS.

Sun, Baohong, Carnegie Mellon University, UC Berkele, UNC-Chapel Hill

Zhao, Hao, Rutgers

Zhang Shi, UCLA, Duke

Accounting:

Liu, Jing, UCLA

Xiang Bing, HKUST

Qi, Daqing,  ChineseUHK

Xue, Yunkui, Shanghai Finance and Economics

Strategy,

Zeng, Ming, INSEAD at Singapore

OB,

Liu, Wei, came back directly after PhD

Lee, xiujuan, NUSingapore

List of CEIBS faculties and schools that they had tenure track positions

Operations Management

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Finance

Chang, Chun, Finance, laceType w:st="on">UniversitylaceType> of Minnesota,

Gao, Yan, Finance, Cal State LA

Tse, Kalun, Finance, Nyenrode University in The Netherlands.

Xu, Xiaonian, Finance, Amherst college

Zhang, yiming, Finance, University of New Brunswick, Canada, and Department of Economics and Finance, City University of Hong Kong.

Zhu, yu, Finance, no academic bacground

Accounting

Ding, Yuan, accounting, HEC

Xu, Dingbo, accounting, HKUST

Marketing:

Willem burgers, used to be at HKUST

Linda Price, HKUST and Insead

Linda Sprague, HKUST

Liang, Neng, Marketing, Loyola collge of  Maryland

Zhou, Dongsheng, marketing, CUHK

OB

Keith Goodall, OB, Judge Institute

William Mobley, OB, Texas A and M,

Pedro Nueno, OB, IESE, Spain

Fernandez, Juan A. , OB, used to be at ESCI, Spain

Xiao, Zhixing, OB, came back after PhD

Xin, Katherine, OB, HKUST

Howard Ward, OB, no PhD, no academic background, OB

Arthur Yeung, OB/HR, no real academic background, an adjunct professor at U. Michigan does not count.

Strategy

Fryxell, Gerald E. , Strategy, HKUST, U. of Tennesee

Zhang weijiong, strategy, came back directly after PhD

Park, Sam, Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey. University of Texas-Dallas, Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, and City University of Hong Kong

Economics

Alfredo pastor, IESE, Spain

Rolf Cremer, Economics, used to be at Massey University at New Zealand

Wang, Jianmao, Economics, came back directly to China after PhD

Wu, Jinglian, Economics, a well-known economist in China

Xu, Bin, Economics, U. of Florida

Zhang Guohua, economics, no information

You should notice that faculties from CKGSB had been on tenure track at schools like MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Wharton, UC Berekley, Duke, UCLA, Carnegie-Mellon, NYU. UNC Chapel Hill, Ohio State, Michigan State, UBC, Rutgers, HKUST, ChineseUHK, Washington, U., Rutgers

CEIBS faculties has been on tenure track at schools such as

Texas A&M, Loyola college of Maryland, U. of Minnesota, U. of Florida, Insead, Amherst College, Massey University of New Zealand, University of New Hampshire, University of Tennesse, University of Oregon, Rutgers, Nyenrode University in The Netherlands, HKUST, Cal State LA, University of New Brunswick, Canada,  City University of Hong Kong, HEC France, IESE, Spain, UT Dallas, ESCI, Spain, Judge Insitute, UK

It should be clear to you which set of faculties are of a higher caliber. Contrary to your belief, the caucasian faculties at CEIBS are of lower quality compared to their Chinese colleagues there. The real stars at CEIBS are Chang Chun, Katherine Xin, Sam Park, Xu Bin, Wu, Jinglian. Unfortunately, Chinese nowadays have such a strong inferior complex that when they see an Caucasian name they assume that he/she is good. None of the caucasian faculties at CEIBS can find an academic job at a top 100 business school in US but Chang Chun, Katherine Xin, Sam Park, Xu Bin can get offers in the top 30.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-2-15 14:36:11编辑过]

落花流水

楼上提供的数据不够准确。教授的流动性很强。有些教授未必在长江了。不过作为大部分申请人，也只认得李嘉诚和他名下的企业。申请人最关心的还是学校的名声和毕业后的就业问题。至于教授的好坏大多都是一家之词，姑且听听吧。希望长江不要步汕头大学的后尘。

中欧

首先我不同意用教授的好坏作为提高收费的理由。其次，用中欧作比较更是没有必要。最后，这位同学用错误的信息误导其他人的方法显得很是没有水平。谁说中欧没有从哈佛和MIT来得PROFESSORS？ｌｉｎｇｄａ　不就是原来在哈佛和ＭＩＴ的教授吗？我不想举出其他例子，这样的争论太没有水平。

grossman

I only include schools in which these people had tenure track positions. For example, Professor Lang Hsien Ping served on the faculty at Wharton as a lecturer and served on the faculty at Chicago as an visiting professor but those do not count. He was never a tenure-track faculty at Wharton or Chicago.  Similarly, Professor Arthur Yeung was an adjunct Professor at U. Michigan and that does not count either as there is no academic requirements for an adjunct professor. I will be surprised if Howard Ward or Arthur Yeung get tenure track offers from a top five hundred schools in US. Unfortunately, the Chinese media does not understand the difference.

From the web page of CEIBS, there is no message that Linda Sprague served on the faculty at MIT or Harvard. She has a Harvard PhD and an MIT Bachelor degree and did serve on the faculty in Stanford but it is not clear that whether it is a visiting position or not.

I believe that Professor Sprague is unlikely to be on the tenure track in Stanford. The two best journals in OM is operations research and Management Science but I cannot find any of her publications there. If you check professor Chen Hong, Professor Zheng Yusheng or Professor Li Lode, you will find each had more than ten papers in these two journals. You may ask others how Professor Sprague would compare with Professors Chen, Zheng and Li.

Finally, CK has decided to charge RMB 220,000. There must be a reason. It is still cheaper than top US schools. If the market is willing to pay such a price, then leave it to the market to decide. There is no reason to stop people from paying the price they are willing to pay. If someone is willing to pay 1 million RMB to buy a PP watch, it is their problem, not yours.

[此贴子已经被作者于2005-3-2 0:30:33编辑过]

落花流水

楼上说得对。有人愿意跳火坑，那是他们的事。不过还是警惕申请人，不要被天花乱坠的吹嘘和海市蜃楼的许诺所迷惑。

pizi

GROSSMAN，你发的帖子里面写CKGSB的教授怎么有些是中欧的？

grossman

Starting from Operations Management and Linda Sprague are those from CEIBS. notice that many of these faculties spends only a few months at CEIBS while most faculties at CKSB are full time at CKGSB.

中欧

楼上那位是长江招生办的吧？嘿嘿。

lukrenee

FYI, guys, I once phoned CK to ask application info, one officer implied they would give each student who might get the admission schorlarship, but to my inquiry of the exact sum they might offer, he commented they would give in accord with different cases, in a word, no confirmed program yet.