申请香港中文的同学们一定要慎重啊

sundance1

If you choose to return china mainland after graduate, better take mainland school for the accumulated network which will help ur job hunting.

CUHK_Admission

[Official reply from CUHK MBA Program Office]

Dear reader,

LZ mentioned certain things about his experience as a CUHK MBA full time student. We guess most readers would probably want to gauge all facts and process related to this, our office would be happy to share some facts and history of this incident. Firstly it is a very fortunate case that LZ actually got an offer for a management leadership program in May from a highly reputable organization who is doing global recruiting from top schools, just 10 months after he started his MBA program at CUHK business school in Sep 2012, we think this is positive news and it does demonstrate our support to students.  On the other hand, there is unfortunately a visa issue where we are still actively trying to sort out. The Hong Kong authority will not issue work visa as LZ is still technically a full time student staying in Hong Kong under student visa. Anybody will probably notice that pretty much all authorities will not allow somebody holding two different visas and staying in a location under two different identities if he/she remains his/her full-time student status. As far as we know LZ has NOT finished his studies in the MBA therefore we could not suggest the Hong Kong authorities to revoke his student visa and switch to work visa or else LZ will simply not able to finish his study and receive the MBA degree from the University. This is an unfortunately technical situation that we cannot change the law as a University even though we are still trying to communicate with all parties concerned to see if we can find the best solution to our student. Supporting and protecting the interest to our students are always our number one concern.

The MBA program office has nearly 25 people covering different functions such as marketing, admission, program management, career services, student development, exchange programs, etc. We believe we have the most mature and comprehensive team among all schools in Hong Kong and Singapore. This management team is the biggest among ALL postgraduate programs in our University. If the University is NOT paying attention, they will not have devoted so much resource in MBA program management.

The career services team has 7 full time staff, including director and managers dedicated to ONLY supporting MBA students. Once again this is a big commitment from the University and the Business School to support MBA students, and we believe the level of resources we put in is ahead of other schools in both Hong Kong and Singapore. As we have been saying this for many years, especially in mainland China, career management is students’ responsibility, we provide support, facilitation, tools and information, but we cannot spoon feed jobs to students and guarantee outcomes. We mentioned in our information session in Beijing last weekend that 2013 has not been an easy year for job hunting. We are always open and transparent to sharing information with our students, therefore, we do regularly update career report for FT MBA class, and we updated the Career Report for Class of 2012 in Sept last year. We expect to provide the latest career update for Class of 2013 in Sept this year. By now, as an interim update, 82% of our Class of 2013 are employed. LZ is studying an accelerated program so he is not included in this statistics. Again this is not an easy year for internship, and as we have explained numerous times in information sessions, internship opportunities are generally less abundant in Asia comparing to US, especially during an economic slowdown. Having said that, our students managed to join internship from the following organizations in summer 2013:

JP Morgan, Citi group, Goldman Sachs. Adidas, Sun Hung Kai Group, Google, PCCW, Standard Chartered, Cigna etc.

There is always room for improvement and we always welcome students to have direct dialogue with us. The world is not perfect and we also expect students to set a proper expectation about their MBA studies. We will be organizing MBA info session in Shanghai on the coming Saturday with details as follows:

Date:                 Jul 20, 2013 (Sat)
Time:                 2:30pm – 4:00 pm (Registration starts at 2pm)
Venue:               The Langham Xintiandi, 99 Madang Rd, Xintiandi, Shanghai, China
Registration:      http://www.baf.cuhk.edu.hk/mba/20130720_SH_Info.html

We would welcome any interested students to come and we will be happy to answer any of your questions. We will visit Beijing and Shanghai again in August, we will be happy to provide personal consultation about MBA studies and career progression Please contact us at mba-admissions@cuhk.edu.hk / +852 3943 7782 to make a booking.

MBA office
CUHK Business School      

sean8338

首先，我想告诉大家，以上学校写的内容和我之前写的内容都是事实，我写的内容和学校回复的内容都没有夸大其词。其次，香港中文大学以及香港中文大学的MBA项目，我个人觉得从学校的声誉及教学质量上来讲，我个人没什么好吐槽的（其他人怎么觉得我想不代表）。我之所以让大家慎重意思就是提醒大家很多事情还是要靠自己，自己的事情要自己多操心的去问，不能完全指望学校主动提醒你或者帮你发现问题。

接下来我说回复一下我的offer是怎么丢的。正如学校所写的，我5月份就拿到了一个global公司的管培offer。作为大陆来读书的学生，我清楚香港的政策是我拿学生签证不能上班，但是我不清楚拿工作签证不能上学。当时拿到offer之后我通知了MBA项目Career Center的负责人，说明我会在7月22号上班。这个时候我认为他应该清楚的知道我保持现状的话是拿不到工作签证的，但是没有人提醒我。然后我就知会了MBA项目负责课程的负责人，问他我有没有办法加速我的毕业进程，因为我7月要上班。那边的答复是我暑期的课程是在周末和晚上，完全不影响我上班。这样的回复让我就完全没想到签证会出问题。6月初开始申请工作签证的时候，移民局要求MBA office出具一个证明信，说明我已经修完了课程或者是正以PT的模式就读，学校当时出具了这个证明信，而不是告诉我我不是PT模式而是FT模式，课程修不完，工作签证肯定申请不下来。直到上周，移民局准备给我发工作签的时候，需要学校注销我的学生签证，这时候学校才说因为我没有完成课程，现在无法注销我的学生签证。我问MBA office能不能帮我转PT，MBA office说需要时间，需要大佬批，而且如果转模式要收回奖学金（特别提这个就是让我放弃这个念头，他们就不用操作了），已经跟公司HR沟通了，让他们考虑让我推迟入职。也就是学校这边不打算做什么了，交给公司去想办法。公司显然也不想弄得自己太麻烦，而7月22号就要上班，在这种情况下，公司本周二也就是16号通知说既然你无法按时拿到工作签证，那公司也不能违法，只好收回我的offer。

这里我想说的是，我自己也有责任，没有主动问学校或者公司这种情况下我到底能不能申请工作签证。但是，之前我问MBA office我能不能想办法提前毕业，并且告诉了他们我确定的入职时间，他们还是说不行，要按照课表来，可是现实是事后我才知道已经有其他同学提前修完了所有课程，所以是具有可操作性的。另外，在明确知道我7月份会入职的情况下，如果之前有任何一个环节让我知道只有转PT才能拿到工作签这一条路的话，我5月就开始转也不会造成现在即使转也来不及的结局。

至于宿舍之类的问题，因为资源有限，MBA office需要跟其他很多学院协调，并没有操作上的失误。所以我打一开始就没分到宿舍我也没有太多的抱怨，只是希望他们以后能找到解决办法。

最后我想说的是，很多同学找到了intern，也是很好的公司，这都是事实。本人作为过来人想对要申请MBA的人说一声，之前有人说过，MBA是锦上添花，可以学东西拓展人脉增广见闻搭建平台，但重要的是通过MBA提高自己，找工作还是要自己有本事，大部分公司还是看之前背景的，仅仅靠MBA改变命运是不现实的。我并不后悔到中大读MBA，只是觉得如果都多上点心，按他们回复的把学生利益放在第一位，有些事是可以避免的。

sean8338

稍微纠正学校一点，文中说到“LZ is studying an accelerated program so he is not included in this statistics.” 我确实是在上summer term，也没有参加实习。事实是我以为自己7月22号要上班，悲催的拒掉了香港Cigna给我提供的intern. 另外，帮MBA office补充一点，有之前纯IT背景的大陆同学找到了Bain的实习，算是励志了吧：）

mikechang829

所以樓主現在的打算是.....先利用暑假把課修完嗎? 祝你之後求職順利嘍

zzjj066

I enquiried the loan  issue in Feb. there is no response .
I called them , there is no any explanation .they said they will send me mail for details, but no response since now ...

sean8338

mikechang829 发表于 2013-7-19 16:07
所以樓主現在的打算是.....先利用暑假把課修完嗎? 祝你之後求職順利嘍

谢谢哈，我现在确实没别的选择了，只能一边学习一遍继续再找工作了

Beautyng

非常同情sean遭遇，我是CU PT的，大陸同學來港先了解香港搵工文化

一. 學校觀點正確，搵工靠自身，學校不能保鉦學生能有工作，完全與中大冇關
二.大陸同學要在香港搵intern 不會很難，大公司有很多intern, 主因請intern 會平很多，視他們為亷價勞工，應該很容易搵intern
三.住宿事件，不關中大事，自己要處理

Beautyng

jinjing007 发表于 2013-7-18 11:22
完全赞同楼主，对中大挺失望的，不能从学生角度考虑，我们已经不指望career office给我们介绍工作了，很多 ...

CU 是香港三大之一，怎會不是稱上合格商學院

Beautyng

zsg1112 发表于 2013-7-18 12:01
楼主说的是事实，他损失惨重啊！MBA office本身提供的工作机会就很少，其他部门还各种不给力和不透明，很让 ...

Zsg, 先了解香港搵工文化，搵工靠自身的