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The golden crab of the Gulf of Mexico has not been fished commercially in great numbers, primarily on account of living at great depths-2,500 to 3,000 feet down.

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关于sb's doing sth的一些问题 og15, og 48

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楼主
发表于 2004-12-7 20:27:00 | 只看该作者

关于sb's doing sth的一些问题 og15, og 48






今天在网上搜索大全问题的时候,看到了tianwan GG的关于sb's doing sth的解释,但是有些不太明白,还望大家指教。


原讨论:http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=45069



以下是引用zj1983在2004-4-7 21:53:00的发言:

大全507.Modern critics are amused by early scholars’ categorizing Tacitus’s Germania as an ethnographic treatise.
(A) scholars’ categorizing Tacitus’s Germania as
(B) scholars’ categorizing Tacitus’s Germania as if
(C) scholars, categorizing of Tacitus’s Germania as
(D) scholars who categorize Tacitus’s Germania as
(E) scholars who categorize Tacitus’s Germania if  


答案是A,我想问问XDF上课时说sb's doing sth在GMAT中永远错,为什么这里是对的?


以前的帖子好像讲得不清楚,还望NN们帮忙!


问题是逻辑主语,如果分词的逻辑主语是句子主语,用one's doing(one是句子主语)则one's多余。本题不是句子主语,所以这个one's不可省。


以前我也是这末认为的,但是在OG的解释中看到了几个例子,觉得好象有些冲突。


48. The golden crab of the Gulf of Mexico has not been fished commercially in great numbers, primarily on account of living at great depths-- 2,500 to 3,000 feet down.



(A)  on account of living



(B)  on account of their living



(C)  because it lives



(D)  because of living



(E)   being they live



As used in choices A, B, and D, the phrases on account of and because of are unidiomatic; because, which appears in C and E, is preferable here since because can introduce a complete subordinate clause explaining the reason why the golden crab has not been fished extensively. B and E also produce agree­ment errors by using the plural pronouns their and they to refer to the singular noun crab. Choice D, like A, fails to provide a noun or pronoun to perform the action of living, but even with its the phrases would be more awkward and less clear than it lives. C, which uses because and it as the singular subject of a clause, is the best choice.


这道题中,分词的逻辑主语是句子主语crab呀?Choice D, like A, fails to provide a noun or pronoun to perform the action of living做何解释?


另:


15. In his research paper, Dr. Frosh, medical director of the Payne Whitney Clinic, distinguishes mood swings. which may be violent without their being grounded in mental disease, from genuine manic-depressive psychosis.



(A)  mood swings, which may be violent without their being grounded in mental disease, from genuine manic-depressive psychosis



(B)  mood swings, perhaps violent without being grounded in mental disease, and genuine manic-depressive psychosis ,



(C)  between mood swings, which may be violent without being grounded in mental disease, and genuine manic-depressive psychosis



(D)  between mood swings, perhaps violent without being grounded in mental disease, from genuine manic-depressive psychosis



(E)   genuine manic-depressive psychosis and mood swings, which may be violent without being grounded in mental disease



The best choice is C because it uses the idiomatically correct expression distinguishes between x and y and because it provides a structure in which the relative clause beginning which may be violent clearly modifies mood swings. The other choices use distinguishes in unidiomatic constructions. Additionally, their in A is intrusive and unnecessary, and the modifier of mood swings in B and D (perhaps violent) is awkward and less clear than the more developed clause which may be violent.



their in A is intrusive and unnecessary倒是符合Tianwan GG的说法。


除了上述质疑外,还有一个问题,介词+being done是否也是一种固定的正


确搭配?还望各位NN回答!谢谢!


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沙发
发表于 2004-12-7 23:50:00 | 只看该作者

我谈谈我的看法吧,如有不对之处,还请多多指点

大全507:根据逻辑意思判断,Modern critics 一定是因为scholars’ categorizing  这种行为而 amused。新东方的很多说法感觉比较绝对,很多情况下都不适用。这道题就是很好的例子。

OG48: Doing, SVO的结构,分词的逻辑主语就是主句的主语。而SVO,doing结构,就不存在逻辑主语一致的问题了。而account of 后面跟的应该是动名词吧?

OG15: 没有研究过介词+being done, 就不再这里乱说了。

板凳
发表于 2004-12-8 00:26:00 | 只看该作者

      说点个人看法:我们探讨这么多语法规则是不是有些误入歧途???是否真有这么多语法的规则???

      比如大全507,sb's doing sth这个用法肯定是有的,然后看选项,从意思的角度去考虑,只能选A,没有疑问

      比如OG48,意思上直接翻译一下:D就是因为生长在。。。C是因为它生长在。。。你说哪个对??

      再比如OG15,意思上看A,翻译一下,多难受!!

      我以前做题目一直在究语法,究的很细,收效不大

      现在跳出来,主要看句子意思,辅助简单语法知识比如平行、主胃一致等。发现看懂了句子,把句子翻译出来一读,有些错误的选项简直荒谬的可笑

       这些话似乎不是针对楼主的这个问题,但希望能对楼主有帮助

地板
 楼主| 发表于 2004-12-8 19:18:00 | 只看该作者
谢谢!我也赞同kingsoft的说法,但是往往在做题的时候,会不由自主地先套用一些法则来排除一些选项!
5#
发表于 2004-12-8 19:28:00 | 只看该作者

同意kingsoft, 现在语法的趋势就是逻辑意思的理解变得越来越重要了。这也是合乎情理的,所有的语法本都是为了表达逻辑意思而服务的!

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发表于 2004-12-9 05:30:00 | 只看该作者
同意KINGSOFT.大家在理解OG的解释时有没有注意到它经常说正确或错误的理由unidiomatic或者idiomatic,意思是不和习惯用法,或者符合习惯用法.习惯用法在语法上未必对.
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