各位大牛,剑桥和牛津的MBA相比较,哪个更好呀?

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以下是引用ella在2004-12-11 5:39:00的发言：

Cambridge is better in high tech.

It makes no much difference actually. Depends on which site you like better. Ox is a city and cam is a small town which is very very charming.

There are a lot of exchanges between the 2 programs and they held a joint recruiting event to put all students together early this spring.

Hi, Ella, thanks for your kindness.

Now I wonder how big differences exist  between OXFORD and LBS and between OXFORD and the US second-tier business schools listed from 11th to 20 th by USNEWS.

best regards

ella

it really depends where you want to stay after MBA and which sector you want to stay with. If you want to return to China, then oxbridge should be  nice choices. If you want to stay in consulting or banking or in UK, then LBS is certainly a lot better. Ranking does not mean as much when you graduated and you will not care as much of course. It is really hard to compare Cam and Ox, as it is really hard to compare Harvard and MIT and other top US schools.

If you have a clear vision of the career path you will choose after MBA, then it is easier to make decisions on school choices. Ranking for certain year is certainly important,( just like GMAT score means to your application files) it should not be the most important thing to weight your overall decision.  

Hope this helps a bit.

山峰

ella,

Do you have profile of the job placement of Cam,Ox and LBC?

Especially those of chinese students.

Thanks

ella

You can find the relevant info on their web. As for Chinese students, it is really hard to tell. It depends a lot on the year when their students are graduated.

薇薇酥心

cam,ox have a low standard of enrollment in comparsion with north america's?

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lancyone

LBS's two year program gives you plenty of time in career devising. The
brand also offers opportunities(in investment banking and consulting)
which are equal to those at top 10 US schools.

If you are really in at Oxford/Cambridge, which are known even to all
high school students in China but whose MBA brands are not very much
valued within the circle, probably you have to think over the pros and
cons of 1 yr program, which poses difficulities in your job search,
both for internship and full-time(there are cases in which Oxford MBAs graduated by enrolling in LBS's Master in Finance Programme).

Insead might be an exception among all one yr European programs because of its internationally recognised brand.

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zm

hehe, Ella is alway promoting JIMS.

Oxbridge means these two schools have lots of exchange. therefore, it is hard for me and Ella to tell which one is better because we are from these two schools respectively and we both respect each other. do not be misled by ranking. brandname matters. HBS does not care its ranking because it is one of the top b-schools even if it is ranked the last one. ranking sometimes is biased and tricky and can be changed shortly. however, a brandname can only be built over tens or even hundreds of years. LBS also has problem with its Chinese students placements and cut its Chinese student places from 10 to 3 in 2004. placement is a common challenge for Chinese students in European schools.

lancyone

Just curious about Oxbridge's latest statistics on Chinese students placement.

Thx.

zdcgy

agree with lancyone

the brandname of the whole university is important, but when looking for jobs, we are competing in an environment where people know the difference between a university and its bschool. we are not dealing with laymen who are easily fascinated by the big name of a university.

wonderpiece

说几句吧。我是去年牛津MBA毕业的。很多人问我，牛津和剑桥比，牛津和LBS比，牛津和北美商学院比。有一句话Ella说得很对，你不告诉我你具体情况怎么比法。是仅仅为了读书，还是为了找工作，还是为了体验生活。。。？我有个同学就为了休息一年，想都没想就申请了牛津，说随便什么专业都可以，只为了出来呆一年。而我们班上很多同学都是同时拿到几个offer的，牛津，LBS，INSEAD，北美的。据我所知，同时拿到牛津和LBS的，一半选择了前者，一半后者。各有所长。

至于排名的，说实话真的是胡扯蛋。最多最多做个参考而已。这玩意儿本来就不科学，不同的排名方法得出的结果相差太大。而且这里每个人选择自己申情的学校都有自己的理由，学校声誉，某方面强项，地理位置，校友实力，很少很少有人很具排名选学校的，连参考的都很少。因为大家心里都有一杆秤这学校大概位于什么样的水平，是1st tier还是2nd tier。而排名的作用也仅此而已。我想之所以有些人那么关注排名主要是因为他们对各个学校一点都不了解，而只能靠排名来衡量高下。(为什么大家高考前填志愿的时候很少有人打听国内学校的排名呀，因为太了解了，无所谓清华北大谁排第一了，考南大复旦的也不会因为北大排名稍高九天北大)。所以大家与其去打听排名还不如好好研究一下各个学校之间的区别。

说了那么多，就来具体比较一下吧。先说牛津和剑桥。老对头了，所以不方便多说，说多了很难不带感情色彩。客观的讲，这两个学校实在太相似了，学生人数，生源比例，教学体系。传统的比较是剑桥理科好，牛津文科强。所以剑桥有不少科学家，而牛津出了更多的首相和政治家。可是这对MBA没什么影响，倒是对本科生影响稍大。另一个区别是，剑桥的商学院博士生较多。牛津的MBA人数比剑桥多。牛津城市较大，比较宏伟，适合在大晴天的时候欣赏。剑桥比较秀丽，有小溪蜿蜒其中，雨中参观尤佳。至于就业，体育等其他方面，没什么好比的，都一样。所以一句话，这两个学校去了任何一所都不会后悔的。再加一句，去了任何一所都不会再想去另一所了。

明天我谈谈牛津和LBS以及INSEAD的区别。可能这个对中国申请者更有参考意义。

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