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昨天听了一个长江教授的讲座,感觉明显不如中欧啊

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发表于 2012-6-20 22:49:02 | 只看该作者
相对于体制内的商学院,体制外的确实有点过度营销。以一些体制内商学院的母校在中国的江湖地位和名气,它们根本用不着太多的推广,爱来不来。体制外的,不推广,就没人来了。

关于EMBA,在中国是有点畸形。学生更多的是讲人脉,学校要的是资源,很少有人会寄希望于学点东西。美其名曰- 高管战略人脉足以,同学间相互学习更重要。
-- by 会员 星星点灯2010 (2012/6/20 16:56:19)


星星,这句话,说的没错。这就是体制内外的差距,体制束缚生产力;才给了年轻的体制外商学院有了和体制内较量的机会,中欧20年不到、长江10年不到,已经在国内商科有一席之地。
上次去THU的法学院,学生以法学院在某排名全球TOP前50为傲,而未想到,THU的法学院,已经是大陆第一了,仅在全球TOP50之列,太二流了,不以为耻,反以为傲,可见体制的可怕。
大陆体制外的两所商科,我想都不可能满足在某排名TOP50,至少也会以仅TOP50为耻吧。我泱泱大国,国内TOP2的本科院校其商科,竟然在国际某排名TOP10都不到,简直是自取其辱。
-- by 会员 sxf112233 (2012/6/20 17:23:03)


请问长江的排名是多少呢,我可找不到。还有,貌似除了长江商学院的同学,鲜有对中欧的抨击。
商学院培养的是什么人才呢?做生意的人才。中欧自己定位很明确:主要为外企培养人才。清华北大复旦交大浙大为国企培养人才,模式不一定要和中欧的一样。中欧和那些成熟的外企一样,尊重中国环境和制度,即是自己与体制不同,但是不去碰撞体制,这才是绅士的风格。
难道创业一定要英文吗?国企工作一定要英文吗?一定要低下头,舔外国人的屁股才是商学院生存之道吗?
强调自己的杰出,不一定要否定他人的存在,即使是下三滥的学校。存在即是合理,不是每个人都要当总裁,每个人当总裁,那谁去跑市场。
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发表于 2012-6-21 06:00:36 | 只看该作者
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长江商学院特邀嘉宾系列讲座之--全球顶级市场营销学教授聚首长江
日期:2012-06-08



新媒介 新战略 新机遇
NEW TOOLS/ NEW STRATEGIES/ NEW OPPOTUNITIES
[2012夏,北京 长安街]
Beijing, Summer 2012
主办:长江商学院全日制英文MBA项目
ORGANIZER: CKGSB Full-time MBA Program
协办:长江商学院CIM消费者信息管理中心
SPONSOR: Center for Customer Information Management, CKGSB

参与:凭邀请入场
FEE: Free by invitation
主持人:陈歆磊 教授
MODERATOR: Prof. CHEN Xinlei

Prof. SUN Baohong
Dean's Distinguished Chair Professor of Marketing, Associate Dean of Global Programs, Director of Social Media and Customer Information Management Center, CKGSB

Prof. CHEN Xinlei
Visiting Associate Professor of Marketing, CKGSB; Associate Professor, Finning Junior Professorship in Marketing, Marketing Division, Sauder School of Business, University of British Columbia
对话嘉宾 PANELISTS

Prof. David Bell
Xinmei Zhang and Yongge Dai Professor
Professor of Marketing, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania.

Prof. Jean-Pierre Dubé
Sigmund E. Edelstone Professor of Marketing and Robert King Steel Faculty Fellow, Booth School of Business, University of Chicago.

Prof. John Little
Institute Professor, Professor of Marketing, Sloan School of Management, MIT.

Prof. Darren Dahl
Fred H. Siller Professor in Applied Marketing Research Professor, Professor and Chair, Marketing Division, Sauder School of Business, University of British Columbia.

Prof. Karunakaran Sudhir
James L Frank Professor of Private Enterprise, Director, China India Consumer Insights (CICI) Program, Yale School of Management, Yale University
活动详情 EVENT DETAILS
时间:6月26日(周二),19:00 – 21:30(18:30签到)
TIME: 19:00 – 21:30, Jun 26th, Tue (18:30 registration)
地址:北京市东长安街1号东方广场东二座20层
VENUE: 20F, E2, Oriental Plaza, 1, E ChangAn Avenue, Beijing
活动议程 AGENDA

    18:30 签到
    Registration
    19:00 孙宝红教授致欢迎辞
    Welcoming remarks by Prof. SUN Baohong
    Prof. SUN Baohong
    Dean's Distinguished Chair Professor of Marketing, Associate Dean of Global Programs, Director of Social Media and Customer Information Management Center, CKGSB
    19:10 教授就“市场营销之前沿大势”逐一主题发言
      5*15 minutes panelist presentation about ‘NEW MARKETING TRENDS’
      -Prof. David Bell
      -Prof. Jean-Pierre Dubé
      -Prof. John Little
      -Prof. Darren Dahl
      -Prof. Karunakaran Sudhir

    20:30 陈歆磊教授对话六大教授 Dialogue between Prof. Chen and 6 professors
    20:50 观众提问 Q&A
    21:20 陈歆磊教授致感谢辞
    Closing remarks by Prof. Jack CHEN

For more details, please call 86-10-8518-8858 for CKGSB/MBA dept., or email to: jjxiao@ckgsb.edu.cn
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发表于 2012-6-21 06:01:45 | 只看该作者
网址链接:http://english.ckgsb.edu.cn/NewsandEvents/ListView/tabid/443/Default.aspx?&articleid=3715&leibie=0&ckb=800,801,802,803,804,805&date=2012-6-26
A CKGSB Distinguished Speaker Series Panel Discussion


Global Thought Leaders on NEW MARKETING TRENDS


NEW TOOLS, NEW STRATEGIES, NEW OPPOTUNITIES


Beijing, Summer 2012


TIME: 19:00 - 21:30, Jun 26th, Tue (18:30 registration)
VENUE: CKGSB Beijing Campus: 20F, E2, Oriental Plaza, 1, E ChangAn Avenue, Beijing
ORGANIZER: CKGSB Full-time MBA Program
SPONSOR: Center for Customer Information Management, CKGSB
FEE: Free by invitation
Click here for registration
MODERATOR: Prof. CHEN Xinlei
Prof. SUN Baohong
Dean's Distinguished Chair Professor of Marketing, Associate Dean of Global Programs, Director of Social Media and Customer Information Management Center, CKGSB
Prof. CHEN Xinlei
Visiting Associate Professor of Marketing, CKGSB; Associate Professor, Finning Junior Professorship in Marketing, Marketing Division, Sauder School of Business, University of British Columbia

Prof. David BellProf. Jean-Pierre DubéProf. John LittleProf. Darren DahlProf. Karunakaran Sudhir

AGENDA
18:30Registration
19:00Welcoming remarks by Prof. SUN Baohong
Prof. SUN Baohong
Dean's Distinguished Chair Professor of Marketing, Associate Dean of Global Programs, Director of Social Media and Customer Information Management Center, CKGSB
19:10
  • Panelist’s presentations about ‘NEW MARKETING TRENDS’ (5*15 minutes)

  • - Prof. David Bell

  • - Prof. Jean-Pierre Dubé

  • - Prof. John Little

  • - Prof. Darren Dahl

  • - Prof. Karunakaran Sudhir

20:30Dialogue between Prof. Chen and 6 professors
20:50Q&A
21:20Closing remarks by Prof. Jack CHEN

For more details, please call 86-10-8518-8858 for CKGSB/MBA dept., or email to: jjxiao@ckgsb.edu.cn
About the Speakers
SUN Baohong

Dean's Distinguished Chair Professor of Marketing
Associate Dean of Global Programs
Director of Social Media and Customer Information Management Center
Cheung Kong Graduate School of Business


Professor Sun Baohong is the Dean's Distinguished Chair Professor of Marketing, the Associate Dean of Global Programs, Director of Social Media and Customer Information Management Center at Cheung Kong Graduate School of Business. Prior to joining CKGSB, Professor Sun was Carnegie Bosch Professor of Marketing at the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon University. Professor Sun is the recipient of numerous awards for research and teaching, such as the 2009 Finalist for John D.C. Little Best Paper Award at INFORMS and the 2006 MBA George Leland Bach Teaching Award.

Her research areas focus on rational and strategic consumer choices and dynamic structural models; dynamic and interactive marketing mix and customer information management; modeling dynamic and interdependent consumer decisions on e-commerce and social media platforms.

Professor Sun also serves on the editorial boards of Journal of Marketing Research, Marketing Science, and Journal of Marketing. Her extensive consulting experience includes work with major corporations including Bosch, Boy Scouts of America, Highmark Insurance, John Deere and IBM.
CHEN Jack

Visiting Associate Professor of Marketing
Cheung Kong Graduate School of Business


Professor Chen joined CKGSB as a Visiting Associate Professor of Marketing in 2012. He received his Ph.D. in business administration (marketing) from University of Minnesota in 2005. His research areas include new empirical industry organization; learning models; structural modeling of consumer choice and firm strategies (pricing, advertising and promotion); channel choice; entertainment industry (Movie, video game); social networks. Professor Chen is also an Associate Professor, Finning Junior Professorship in Marketing at the Sauder School of Business, University of British Columbia.
David Bell

Xinmei Zhang and Yongge Dai Professor
Professor of Marketing
Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania

Professor Bell is an expert in consumer shopping behavior. Most of his current research focuses on theories and explanations for geographic variation in Internet retail performance. Recent articles explain the effect of physical location on customer acquisition, contagion effects among co-located consumers, and the effect of preference isolation on online demand. Other projects focused on traditional retail settings explore unplanned and impulse buying, and consumer amortization strategies for fixed shopping costs. Previous articles explained consumer store choice among retailers with different pricing strategies, the effect of reference point formation on consumer response to promotions, and the effect of structural factors (e.g., dwelling size) on consumer shopping strategies.
Professor Bell’s research is published in all of the premier academic marketing journals: Journal of Consumer Research, Journal of Marketing, Journal of Marketing Research, Management Science, Marketing Science, and Quantitative Marketing and Economics. He has won several teaching and research awards, including the MBA Core Curriculum Award, Miller-Sherrerd MBA Core Teaching Award, MBA for Executives Excellence in Teaching Award, the Frank M. Bass Outstanding Dissertation Award, three John D.C. Little Best Paper Finalist Awards, and two INFORMS Marketing Science Long Term Impact Finalist Awards.
Professor Bell serves as an expert witness in intellectual property matters pertaining to individual choice behavior. Recent representative cases include Sky Technologies LLP v. SAP, Individual Network LLC v. Apple Inc., and Two-Way Media LLC v. America Online, Inc. (all on behalf of the plaintiff; retained by Susman Godfrey LLP). He also advises and invests in Internet retail startups.
Professor Bell teaches Marketing Management in the Wharton MBA and MBA for Executives Programs and Empirical Modeling in PhD program. He also teaches in the Advanced Management Program and custom Wharton Executive Education programs for clients including AXA, Korean Marketing Association, Philips, Rohm and Haas, and Siam Cement Group.
Professor Bell is an Area Editor for Manufacturing and Service Operations Management, and on the editorial boards of International Journal of Research in Marketing, Journal of Marketing, Journal of Marketing Research, Journal of Retailing, and Marketing Science. He holds a Ph.D. from the Graduate School of Business at Stanford University, an MS in Statistics from Stanford University, an MA (Honorary) from the University of Pennsylvania, an M.Com (1st Class Honors) and B.Com from the University of Auckland, New Zealand.
Jean-Pierre Dubé

Sigmund E. Edelstone Professor of Marketing
Robert King Steel Faculty Fellow
Booth School of Business, University of Chicago


Jean-Pierre Dubé is the Sigmund E. Edelstone Professor of Marketing and Robert King Steel Faculty Fellow at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. He studies empirical quantitative marketing and empirical industrial organization, with specific interests in pricing, advertising, branding, internet marketing, retailing and dynamic decision-making. This empirical focus is also reflected in his MBA course on pricing strategies, which is designed to teach students how to apply empirical models and methods to develop pricing strategies in practice.
Dubé’s work has been published in the The American Economic Review, The Journal of Marketing Research, The Journal of Political Economy, Management Science, Marketing Science, Quantitative Marketing and Economics and The Rand Journal of Economics. He is an area/associate editor for The Journal of Marketing Research, Management Science, Marketing Science, and Quantitative Marketing and Economics. He was the recipient of the 2008 Paul E. Green Award for Best paper in the Journal of Marketing Research and of the 2005 Faculty Teaching Excellence Award for Evening MBA and Weekend MBA Programs at the Chicago Booth. He was also the recipient of several MSI Research Grants, a Kauffman grant, and a Yahoo! Faculty Research Grant.
Dubé earned a bachelor's degree from the University of Toronto in quantitative methods in economics in 1995, a master's degree in economics in 1996, and a PhD in 2000 from Northwestern University. He joined the Chicago Booth faculty in 2000.
John Little

Institute Professor
Professor of Marketing
Sloan School of Management, MIT


John Little has had a distinguished career spanning five decades. He has published seminal papers in operations research methodology, traffic signal control, decision support systems, and especially marketing. In operations research he is best known for his proof of the queuing formula L = λW, commonly known as Little's Law. Considered a pioneer in marketing science, Little has done research on a broad set of modeling and decision support issues, including models of individual choice behavior, adaptive control of promotional spending, and marketing mix models for consumer packaged goods. He is co-editor with Blattberg and Glazer of The Marketing Information Revolution, HBS Press (1994). When the Internet burst on the scene, Little was quickly attracted to e-commerce and co-taught the first course on the subject at MIT Sloan. In addition to his continuing interest in consumer packaged goods, he is currently conducting research on marketing automation in Internet retailing. Among Little's honors, he has been elected to the National Academy of Engineering and has received the Parlin and Converse Awards of the American Marketing Association, as well as the Kimball Medal of the Institute for Operations Research and the Management Sciences (INFORMS). He is a Fellow of INFORMS and the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
Darren Dahl

Fred H. Siller Professor in Applied Marketing Research
Professor and Chair, Marketing Division
Sauder School of Business, University of British Columbia


Darren Dahl is Fred H. Siller Professor in Applied Marketing Research Professor and Chair, Marketing Division at Sauder School of Business, University of British Columbia. His research interests include new product development, creativity, emotions in consumption contexts, social influence and social marketing
Professor Dahl has won many teaching and research awards, which include the Sauder Research Excellence Award (Senior) - University of British Columbia (2012) and MBA Teaching Award - University of British Columbia (2008)
Professor Dahl has won the Social Science and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC) grant in 2005,2008 and 2011. The SSHRC grant he was awarded in 2011 is Social Norm Violation in a Marketing Context: When, Why, and How Consumers Punish Other Consumers.
Professor Dahl has published on many major academic marketing journals. His most recent publish is Darren W. Dahl, Jennifer J. Argo, and Andrea C. Morales (2012), "Social Information in the Retail Environment: The Importance of Consumption Alignment, Referent Identity, and Self-Esteem", Journal of Consumer Research, 38 (5), 860-871.
Karunakaran Sudhir

James L. Frank '32 Professor of Private Enterprise and Management
Professor of Marketing & Director, China India Consumer Insights (CICI) Program
Yale School of Management, Yale University

Professor K. Sudhir is James L. Frank Professor of Marketing, Private Enterprise and Management and director of the Yale China India Insights (CIIP) Program. His research focuses on gaining market insights by analyzing consumer and firm actions through econometric modeling. As director of the China India Insights Program, he also specializes in research on consumers in emerging markets. He has consulted for Fortune 500 U.S. firms and Indian firms across many industries such as technology, financial services, entertainment, and retailing, specializing in analyzing their internal data to obtain actionable market insights.
Professor Sudhir’s research has been honored with numerous awards across all major quantitative marketing journals. Two of his papers were nominated among the top ten papers published in the last ten years in Marketing Science and Management Science for their Long-Term Impact over three consecutive years from 2009-2011. He has received the Little and Bass Best Paper Awards at Marketing Science and the Lehmann Award at the Journal of Marketing Research; and honorable mentions for the Wittink Award in Quantitative Marketing and Economics and Best Paper Award in International Journal of Research in Marketing. He has also been a finalist for the Paul Green Award at the Journal of Marketing Research.
He serves as an associate editor at Marketing Science, Management Science and Quantitative Marketing and Economics and on the editorial boards of the Journal of Marketing Research, Journal of Marketing, and the Journal of Retailing.
74#
发表于 2012-6-21 06:06:20 | 只看该作者
被认为不行的教授是可以在这里对话的,不同场合换了,可能就是好的。
以前有人讲过,贝利不会和贝多芬比音乐,同样贝多芬也不会和贝利比足球,大家所长不同。
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发表于 2012-6-24 22:32:56 | 只看该作者
在中欧上学时曾经有过一个访问教授,是美国当时总统顾问委员会成员,某美国知名大学终身教授,教战略的,研究方面很厉害,可是课讲得却一般,结果最后在学生评价方面分数很低,第二年中欧就没有再请他,估计这个老兄很郁闷。

还碰到一个印度教授金融学的,是美林的高管,一样被学生评价很低,所以做教授光有水平但不能教学,在中欧这样的评价制度下也很难生存。
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发表于 2012-6-25 11:16:43 | 只看该作者
长江定位是研究型商学院,从开始建校就这样,这点更像香港科大或美国比较好的商学院。长江也有教授被学生哄下客堂,好像不止一位,但研究好,仍然可以留在长江,而且可以升职。讲课好的不一定能来长江,但研究不行肯定来不了长江,现在估计更是如此,可能有的可以做兼职教授。

而且我们也没有总拿教授或EMBA说事,长江MBA这块是各项目最弱的,我们都承认,这点自知之明我们还是有的,院长和教授也知道,知道这点不需要很高智商,不用谁提醒,如果有建议可以提,骂娘谁都会。从人数上也和EMBA,金融MBA差很多,但也没必要因为这点差否定长江整体,不过也没有谁总拿自己不行的来讲,你自己会吗?比如你面试或申请学校的时候会吗?很多话都是大家公所周知的,也没什么好反驳的。
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发表于 2012-6-25 15:31:01 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2012-6-25 20:56:51 | 只看该作者
项兵承诺过2012年长江进入世界前十的,现在看来,只是当初吹牛了吧。

为什么号称教授一流,却仍然不敢参加排名呢?

原因很简单。排名这种东西,一排学生二排教授,学生烂,教授花钱买再多也白搭。
-- by 会员 ctoi (2012/6/25 15:31:01)

排名前10,得从不同角度看。
不参加排名,一定是不敢吗,没有其他原因?
既然你那么厉害,秀下背景让我们学习下吧?我敢保证,你不是国内TOPmba任意一所,不知道在这里诋毁国内各所院校是什么心态,吃不到葡萄吗?
我劝你早点考个G,有空多研究下自己行业的东西,不要心态那么阴暗,即便在这里挑唆,在现实中不会有任何作用,只不过给了你指间一时的快感,当你关上电脑,躺在床上,你未曾感到一丝失落吗?
引用一个句话,脚踏实地,仰望星空。希望对你的有所帮助。
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发表于 2012-6-25 21:19:12 | 只看该作者
长江和中欧都在努力, 项兵这个水平,确实没有能力带长江进前十,他自己前十也没进过呢。
中欧的那个官僚校长从交大派过来的就更差了,幸好还从哈佛挖了一个教务长过来貌似还算靠谱。
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发表于 2012-6-25 21:48:13 | 只看该作者
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