[求助]英国Cass的Msc Intl Acct& Fin中国学生留英工作的希望有多大？

unnc2010

晕，我发现CD上有好多人明明自己都没经历过，却把自己整得跟个专家似的还要在这里帮人答惑解疑。

各位解疑的同志，你们的解答依据从哪里来的？在伦敦金融城工作过，亦或是当过BIG 4的HR？这年头IBer真多。

-- by 会员 bull113 (2012/5/9 15:10:12)

I've got two offers among big four and am working in the city. If you want to provide any useful insights I'm more than happy to learn that. Obviously my opinions are only based on my experience and subject to bias. But it's way better than sitting there and laughing at others without good reasons.

unnc2010

You are just so right about everything! That is why most people suggest me to stay in the States. A one-year or one-half-year program in London (and without PSW) probably won't provide me with enough time for job hunting. And if I fail to find a job at the end of the program, I'll have to go back to China. However, the US program lasts two years and I also get an OPT for one year after that. It is obvious that the US program is definitely a better choice (hopefully), although I prefer living in London instead.

-- by 会员 MaonaSID (2012/5/9 2:31:17)

Yes the timeline is quite tough, but it's not that bad. You have to admit the undergraduates have an advantage in job hunting compared to postgraduates. So you've got to work more than them.

unnc2010

I never know that! Someone told me that UK employers are mad about fancy undergraduate degrees with high GPA. The big 4 seem much fairer to all students. However, those tests sound terrible. Is it that only UK big 4 do that? Or all big 4 firms around the world are so strict about making mistakes?

-- by 会员 MaonaSID (2012/5/9 2:37:37)

I really don't think so. I think US HRs, esp those in investment banks and buy-side are more picky about the schools and internships than their UK colleagues. In the UK every application goes through online system, so they will look at your whole package. It's not like in the US they can collect your application through career service, therefore target schools have a huge advantage.
About the tests, you just need more practice. It's not difficult at all, just very very annoying.  Some one finds it all right. But I really hate those situational judgements/psychological tests which are so dame long. Also in the interview, they will ask many questions regarding your experience, competences, and motivation. Sometimes patience can make a difference for you. To me investment banking/ buy-side interviews are much more interesting. Don't know about the big four in other regions, sorry about that

Karmalot

Thanks unnc2010, it's really helpful

MaonaSID

I would first like to say thank you very much for all your helpful information!
Yes the career fair definitely plays an important part in US job hunting. And based on what you said, I kinda feel that US employers are more pro-networking than UK companies. That is also why I chose to go to Lehigh at last as that school does have some connections with Big 4 and they come to campus regularly to recruit. Also, the 2 year program might provide me with internship opportunities in summer, which I believe could be very helpful for getting me a full-time position later. As you said, the timeline in UK will be tough, and what is worse, UK companies would prefer undergrads instead of me. This is gonna put me into a very disadvantaged situation, especially since I have no internship experience here in the States that could help to build up my resume. Although I fancy London a lot, it seems better for me to give it up and stay here. Sigh.

Btw, if you don't consider this to be a rude question, are you an undergrad or grad student? Did u get ur undergrad in UK?

unnc2010

I did my undergrad in China and then finished a masters in the UK last year. It's indeed tough to find a job with one-year program, but still many people who are really committed achieved that.

ShirleyWong

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MaonaSID

I did my undergrad in China and then finished a masters in the UK last year. It's indeed tough to find a job with one-year program, but still many people who are really committed achieved that.

-- by 会员 unnc2010 (2012/5/9 19:31:23)

Oh you are making me wanna give it a try, although others told me not to...I bet you must have graduated from a top Chinese university. Did you have any work/internship experience before you went to UK?

bull113

晕，我发现CD上有好多人明明自己都没经历过，却把自己整得跟个专家似的还要在这里帮人答惑解疑。

各位解疑的同志，你们的解答依据从哪里来的？在伦敦金融城工作过，亦或是当过BIG 4的HR？这年头IBer真多。

-- by 会员 bull113 (2012/5/9 15:10:12)

I've got two offers among big four and am working in the city. If you want to provide any useful insights I'm more than happy to learn that. Obviously my opinions are only based on my experience and subject to bias. But it's way better than sitting there and laughing at others without good reasons.

-- by 会员 unnc2010 (2012/5/9 15:51:06)

能不能在伦敦找到工作其实取决于很多方面。有时运气也很重要。学校不能成为一种保证，或者一种单一的衡量指标。另外，BIG FOUR是否比其他金融机构更FAIR，或者是他的招人标准，只有他们自己的HR知道，而且每年他们的标准根据当年的实际运作情况会有点不一样。有个进伦敦XX资产管理公司的哥们告诉我，他个人觉得BIG FOUR比较容易进，因为招人标准低。我当时就无语了。。。。所以每个人的经历都只是个人的经历，是特性，不一定和其他人有共性的。那哥们的背景咱们比不了，所以如果是他上来给各位解惑答疑，那各位看官、问官就只有吐血的份了。

LZ的问题是，CASS能否为留伦敦工作加分，是不？还是那句话，学校根本不是保障。找工作完全在自身。每个人的情况不一样。既然是你的DREAM SCHOOL，换作是我，无论如何也要去尝试一下的。哪怕只有一分的希望。

MaonaSID

谢谢你的回复！其实我最后还是决定留美了。。我也知道Cass跟其他学校比要差些所以才想看看它的location是不是可以弥补这点。。Cass不是我的dream school, 但伦敦是我的dream city, 只是衡量之后觉得去英国风险要大些。。Hope I made the right choice, but who knows..Maybe it turns out that the US school is a bad choice...And then I will die with regrets...oh no...
God bless England~