再问OG103

Avantasia

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-6-3 7:18:00的发言：

1. "Lack" is a vt. instead of a vi. In D, the prep., in, indicates that "lacking" here is not a verb but an adj. This idea is proved by Longman. From Longman: "Do not use the verb lack before 'in' or 'of': We lack ideas (NOT We lack in/of ideas). However, you can use the  phrases be lacking in and a lack: We are lacking in ideas OR We have a lack of ideas."

2. "Verbal modifier" here does not necessarily mean "a modifer for verbs". "Verbal" could also mean "informal" or "oral" besides the adj. of verbs. Therefore, "....but so much... as to be difficult to absorb is an awkward and unidiomatic verbal modifier" only states that "so...as to be" here is a wrong expression and also less formal. The subject of the first part of the sentence is "students", but the the subject of the second one is not. Therefore, "so as to" is not equivalent to "so that" here. In another word, "so that" is required, and it cannot be replaced by "so as to".

3. "lacking so much in math skills" isn't the same as "so lacking in math skills".

    lacking so much........"so" modifies "much"

    so lacking..................."so" modifies "lacking"

解释的到位，准确！

补充一点，OG没有提到，D中to absorb后面没有代词，造成了成份丢失，如果说成to be absorbed似乎更好。

new_land

以下是引用Avantasia在2005-6-3 19:58:00的发言：

解释的到位，准确！

补充一点，OG没有提到，D中to absorb后面没有代词，造成了成份丢失，如果说成to be absorbed似乎更好。

agree，如果这里用被动态，这样student就能通过so ...as to 做逻辑主语，被absorb into a city's economy

titatita

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-6-3 7:18:00的发言：

1. "Lack" is a vt. instead of a vi. In D, the prep., in, indicates that "lacking" here is not a verb but an adj. This idea is proved by Longman. From Longman: "Do not use the verb lack before 'in' or 'of': We lack ideas (NOT We lack in/of ideas). However, you can use the  phrases be lacking in and a lack: We are lacking in ideas OR We have a lack of ideas."

2. "Verbal modifier" here does not necessarily mean "a modifer for verbs". "Verbal" could also mean "informal" or "oral" besides the adj. of verbs. Therefore, "....but so much... as to be difficult to absorb is an awkward and unidiomatic verbal modifier" only states that "so...as to be" here is a wrong expression and also less formal. The subject of the first part of the sentence is "students", but the the subject of the second one is not. Therefore, "so as to" is not equivalent to "so that" here. In another word, "so that" is required, and it cannot be replaced by "so as to".

3. "lacking so much in math skills" isn't the same as "so lacking in math skills".

    lacking so much........"so" modifies "much"

    so lacking..................."so" modifies "lacking"

紫草牛魔王实在是太牛了,坚决不发灌水贴的我也忍不助赞一个!!

xiaowan

3. "lacking so much in math skills" isn't the same as "so lacking in math skills".

lacking so much........"so" modifies "much"

so lacking..................."so" modifies "lacking"

从语法上看上面两句的确不同，从含义上看，两个是不是都说的通呢？当然，它们的强调重点是不同，但是不是应该都是合理的呢？

一个是缺乏这么多技能，一个是如此的缺乏技能

等待NN

estherpeter

以下是引用薰衣紫草在2005-6-3 7:18:00的发言：

1. "Lack" is a vt. instead of a vi. In D, the prep., in, indicates that "lacking" here is not a verb but an adj. This idea is proved by Longman. From Longman: "Do not use the verb lack before 'in' or 'of': We lack ideas (NOT We lack in/of ideas). However, you can use the  phrases be lacking in and a lack: We are lacking in ideas OR We have a lack of ideas."

2. "Verbal modifier" here does not necessarily mean "a modifer for verbs". "Verbal" could also mean "informal" or "oral" besides the adj. of verbs. Therefore, "....but so much... as to be difficult to absorb is an awkward and unidiomatic verbal modifier" only states that "so...as to be" here is a wrong expression and also less formal. The subject of the first part of the sentence is "students", but the the subject of the second one is not. Therefore, "so as to" is not equivalent to "so that" here. In another word, "so that" is required, and it cannot be replaced by "so as to".

3. "lacking so much in math skills" isn't the same as "so lacking in math skills".

    lacking so much........"so" modifies "much"

    so lacking..................."so" modifies "lacking"

关于薰衣nn的第一段解释, 我发现OG11的解释说 are lacking in是动词的现在进行时,,,困惑中

The sentence reveals an ongoing situation (the economy is becoming...), so the use of the present progressvie tense (are lacking in) in place of the present tense (lack) is appropriate.

loomoo

我看的也是OG11，很多解释都改了。呵呵，看来美国人的语法又“弱”化了。。。

btw,强烈赞同nn们的精彩讨论！比og更精辟的说！

seastone

really?? 

huaye221

OG11中对E的解释：In this sentence, the present progressive verb
        are lacking reveals an ongoing situation...

所以这的lacking是动词？与之前的大家的讨论觉得是形容词不一样啊

还有就是为什么后面是ongoing situation--becoming, 前面就要用lacking呢？

songyeonpp

以下是引用唐三彩在2004-9-24 15:21:00的发言：

个人观点：

1。Lacking可以做不及物动词，和in一起使用，而且就是用现在式的，格式为are lacking in sth===缺少sth。所以E中的lacking是进行式。。。。。

2。OG地解释应该没有问题，lack的使用既可以用lack + sth，也可以are lacking in sth，不过OG的意思是后者优先于前者，除非没有后者的选项。。。。。。

请指正，如果我说得对，那么我又学了一招ETS。

BTW，仔细看OG确实很管用的说。。。。。。。。

lack  

1. N-UNCOUNT
            
If
                there
                is a lack
            of
                something, there
                is
                not
                enough
                of
                it
                or
                it
                does
                not
                exist
                at all.
    
                Despite
                his
                lack
                of
                experience, he
                got
                the
                job.
    
                The
                charges were
                dropped for
                lack
                of
                evidence.
    
                There
                is a lack
                of
                people
                wanting
                to
                start
                up
                new
                businesses.

2. VERB
If
                you
                say
                that
                someone
                or
                something
            lacks a particular
                quality
                or
                that a particular
                quality
            is
                    lacking
                in
                them, you
                mean
                that
                they
                do
                not
                have
                any
                or
                enough
                of
                it.
    
                He
                lacked the
                judgment
                and
                political acumen for
                the
                post
                of
                chairman.
    
                Certain
                vital
                information
                is
                lacking
                in
                the
                report.

3. PHRASE
            
If
                you
                say
                there
                is
            no
                    lack
                    of
                something, you
                are emphasizing
                that
                there
                is a great
                deal
                of
                it.
    
                He
                said
                there
                was
                no
                lack
                of
                things for
                them
                to
                talk
                about.

 

 

lacking  

ADJ : v-link
                ADJ, usu ADJ in n
If
                something
                or
                someone
            is
                    lacking
                    in a particular
                quality, they
                do
                not
                have
                any
                of
                it
                or
                enough
                of
                it.
    
                She
                felt
                nervous, increasingly
                lacking
                in
                confidence
                about
                herself.
    
                Why
                was
                military
                intelligence
                so
                lacking?

songyeonpp

以下是引用Avantasia在2005-6-3 19:58:00的发言：

解释的到位，准确！

补充一点，OG没有提到，D中to absorb后面没有代词，造成了成份丢失，如果说成to be absorbed似乎更好。

同意。。 。这个解释加上薰衣草的解释，真是太到位了。

感觉这个题从句子意思上来分析，更容易找出选项。。