偶尔在网上翻到一个2007年的欧洲mba排名,拿出来给大家看看

jasonlove

可以把西班牙三个换成mbs, cranfield, wbs,可能就是中国人心目中的欧洲top 10 mba

Saline

我很好奇一个中国人- 通常还是不懂西班牙语的, 在西班牙能找到什么工作？什么公司？什么职位？ 或者说IESE在国内或香港比OX更容易找工作吗？我实在找不到理由选IESE而不选SAID

-- by 会员 38383388 (2011/7/21 18:29:32)

Hello all,

I'm from IESE MBA class 2012 and I'm currently having my summer internship in Shanghai.
I don't know much about Said MBA, so I can only share some career information from our side.

IESE has a very good reputation in the Europe, which means all the top recruiters know and recognize our brand name.
McKinsey, BCG, Bain & Co., RB, Citi, BOA, Nomura, DB, Credit Swiss, J&J, Novartis, BT, BP, AB InBev, facebook, google, Syngenta, Nestle.... They all recruit from IESE and most of them do on-campus recruit in IESE.

Most of our classmates are doing there internships outside Spain. There are 7 Chinese + Taiwanese students in class 2012, only 2 of them are working in Spain, 1 in London, 1 in Switzerland, 3 in Shanghai. Most of us are part of very competitive MBA internship  programs of large MNCs.

If you wish to work in China after MBA, yes indeed the IESE brand name is not very well known for Chinese companies. But IESE has a very strong network with the top recruiters and they do hire people for their offices in China.

I won't say IESE is for sure better than other European business schools, but I'm very happy with my decision going to IESE and we all think it's a great program.

Btw, we are holding an IESE MBA coffee chat on August 7th in Shanghai, please come to join us if you want to know more about our school.

Date: August 7^th, 2011

Time: 3~6 pm

Location: Cotton’s Xin Hua Road 新華路 294號

Food and drinks are provided



RSVP http://www.iese.edu/aplicaciones/mba/events/regisinfo.asp?idev=6084&opc=Asia&lang


cheers,
Saline
IESE MBA Class 2012

UBS

我很好奇一个中国人- 通常还是不懂西班牙语的, 在西班牙能找到什么工作？什么公司？什么职位？ 或者说IESE在国内或香港比OX更容易找工作吗？我实在找不到理由选IESE而不选SAID

-- by 会员 38383388 (2011/7/21 18:29:32)

Hello all,

I'm from IESE MBA class 2012 and I'm currently having my summer internship in Shanghai.
I don't know much about Said MBA, so I can only share some career information from our side.

IESE has a very good reputation in the Europe, which means all the top recruiters know and recognize our brand name.
McKinsey, BCG, Bain & Co., RB, Citi, BOA, Nomura, DB, Credit Swiss, J&J, Novartis, BT, BP, AB InBev, facebook, google, Syngenta, Nestle.... They all recruit from IESE and most of them do on-campus recruit in IESE.

Most of our classmates are doing there internships outside Spain. There are 7 Chinese + Taiwanese students in class 2012, only 2 of them are working in Spain, 1 in London, 1 in Switzerland, 3 in Shanghai. Most of us are part of very competitive MBA internship  programs of large MNCs.

If you wish to work in China after MBA, yes indeed the IESE brand name is not very well known for Chinese companies. But IESE has a very strong network with the top recruiters and they do hire people for their offices in China.

I won't say IESE is for sure better than other European business schools, but I'm very happy with my decision going to IESE and we all think it's a great program.

Btw, we are holding an IESE MBA coffee chat on August 7th in Shanghai, please come to join us if you want to know more about our school.

Date: August 7^th, 2011

Time: 3~6 pm

Location: Cotton’s Xin Hua Road 新華路 294號

Food and drinks are provided



RSVP http://www.iese.edu/aplicaciones/mba/events/regisinfo.asp?idev=6084&opc=Asia&lang


cheers,
Saline
IESE MBA Class 2012

-- by 会员 Saline (2011/7/25 11:36:33)

想请问下，留在欧洲实习的4个中国人分别去了什么企业。谢谢分享！！

Saline

一次七個大中華的同學實習資訊都分享吧
1 Chinese got offer from BP
1 Chinese is working with professor on projects
1 Taiwanese is in Novartis CFO program
1 Taiwanses is in Nomura London, M&A
1 Chinese & 1 Taiwanese are in J&J IRDP program
1 Taiwanese in AB InBev MBA internship program

去年七個都是台灣人
Citi GTS in London
Sony in Tokyo
J&J in Taiwan
Spanish Biotech in Madrid
La Caixa in Barcelona
Global Practice in Belgium
Eli Lilly in US&Taiwan

Lei2011

多谢学长解答。数据还是挺不错的。以后多发点这类数据，最有说服力
那种认为在西班牙学习，只能在西班牙找工作的想法逻辑上就有问题。
既然75%的学生都能在招聘会上找到工作，我觉得华人怎么着也不会全部或大部分沦落到那25%里面吧，中国人有那么挫吗？

jasonlove

数据一般啊 大部分都是去corporate 没啥IB和consulting的 投资回报不咋地

Lei2011

数据一般啊 大部分都是去corporate 没啥IB和consulting的 投资回报不咋地

-- by 会员 jasonlove (2011/7/25 22:53:01)

信息摆在这里，就是让申请者自己权衡比较。至少， 每年top consulting,IB 都在在IESE招人， 你有这机会是不是。不懂可以参考第一页的数据，去年大麦大摩什么的在IESE招了几个人都有。剩下的就取决于自己的职业规划还有努力。
你也可以对比下北美top 15的就业数据做参考。
如果你认为自己非常挫，不论去哪个商学院，投资回报率都高不了。
另，你认为industry不好吗？

Saline

数据一般啊 大部分都是去corporate 没啥IB和consulting的 投资回报不咋地

-- by 会员 jasonlove (2011/7/25 22:53:01)

as I mentioned earlier, we are not trying to say IESE is better than any other school.
as humility is one of our IESE values, we just speak the fact and our feelings. you wouldn't find any IESE student say something bad about other schools.

if you see the data our incoming students posted, you can see that lots of our peers work in IB and consulting. however, not every MBA student wants to work in IB or consulting. we have our own career preferences and nobody has the right to judge our school by our career choices. the top MBA programs of MNCs are not necessarily less competitive than IB or consulting. for example, Novartis CFO program only recruited 2 interns in total, and both of them are from IESE.

all I can say is, if an IESE student wants to work in IB or consulting, and if he/she is good enough, it's no problem at all to get interview invitations through our school network.

Lei2011

关于亚洲人毕业多大几率留欧洲的问题，我查了下数据哈，
这是IESE 学生生源分布：
Africa: 2 %
Asia: 21 %
Eastern Europe and Central Asia: 2 %
Latin America and the Caribbean: 10 %
Middle East: 3 %
North America: 10 %
Oceania: 1 %
Western Europe: 51 %
Dual citizenship: 0 %
这是毕业生就业分布：
Africa: 1 %
Asia: 9 %
Eastern and Central Europe and Central Asia: 2 %
Latin America and the Caribbean: 10 %
Middle East: 3 %
North America: 8 %
Western Europe: 67 %
西欧生源比例51%，毕业生在西欧工作比例67%。亚洲人入学前比例21%， 毕业后去亚洲工作的比例（可能含有欧美人）： 9%， 所以亚洲人中至少57%的人在西欧工作。
当然了，去西欧工作的亚洲人多数可能是老印，因为印度的人均GDP只有中国的1/3，挺穷的。 根据物质决定精神的原理，他们肯定是最玩命留欧洲的。其他日本人，台湾人，新加坡人，甚至包括大陆人，其实在不在欧洲工作影响应该不大的。当然了，印度人这种情况在多数商学院都应该差不多的
最后，欢迎大家报IESE哈