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2020年,中国将成为世界上最穷的国家???

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31#
发表于 2011-7-13 00:01:49 | 只看该作者
Currently, Chinese has no clear belief.

For example, as a man with similar age as me, he wants to make more money and probably bring high-quality life to his lover and family(or "perfect" life to himself). But when he is 40s or older, he has made a lot of money. Then what is the next step?

I think most people are lost
32#
发表于 2011-7-13 11:06:02 | 只看该作者
Currently, Chinese has no clear belief.

For example, as a man with similar age as me, he wants to make more money and probably bring high-quality life to his lover and family(or "perfect" life to himself). But when he is 40s or older, he has made a lot of money. Then what is the next step?

I think most people are lost
-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/13 0:01:49)



I don't think so.The phenomenon you mention exits maybe due to the high pressure of  life,and when people surpass the stage of exising,they will have other pursuits like higher career achivements,more contribution to the company and the society.But you really can't think for more if you are only in the stage of how to own my house,how to own my car and have stressful loans.
33#
发表于 2011-7-13 15:24:58 | 只看该作者
我没表达清楚
我的意思是,除了career,我们还会有更多的追求么?
40多,你可能可以做到director,vp,然后呢?你追求的是什么?CEO?

所以我的观点是,career是通向更好生活的手段,但不是目的;但中国大部分以及把career当作目的了,因为我们没有别的belief了
34#
发表于 2011-7-13 16:17:32 | 只看该作者
我没表达清楚
我的意思是,除了career,我们还会有更多的追求么?
40多,你可能可以做到director,vp,然后呢?你追求的是什么?CEO?

所以我的观点是,career是通向更好生活的手段,但不是目的;但中国大部分以及把career当作目的了,因为我们没有别的belief了
-- by 会员 pursueMBA2010 (2011/7/13 15:24:58)




这是你现阶段的困惑么?
35#
发表于 2011-7-13 23:26:04 | 只看该作者
安稳地生活 孕育后代 孝敬老人 为社会添砖加瓦 同样是一种信仰一种追求

很多人会说:当代中国人信仰缺失

真是如此? 过去的中国人信仰单一 看似有群力 而现在 人们可追求的东西多了 反倒是显得没了主心骨
36#
发表于 2011-7-13 23:56:50 | 只看该作者
I am sorry to say that but actually it is a history for Chinese to lose belief.

"安稳地生活 孕育后代 孝敬老人 为社会添砖加瓦" is a instinct instead of belief. To some extends, belief is why - why I have to do that and want to do that. What you mention like "安稳地生活 孕育后代 孝敬老人 " is instinct. If you don't want to die, you definitely hope to live comfortably, and continue your life through creating and educating your kids, sth like that.
Besides that, what do you want to do and get? Impact to society? make money? .......

To lss, that is not what i worry about now. It is not the right time. Now what i concern is how to make more money and build up strong career for better life. But I know it will be my concern in 15 ys.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-14 01:13:29 | 只看该作者
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-14 01:40:47 | 只看该作者
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39#
发表于 2011-7-14 17:48:48 | 只看该作者
“本能”和信仰本不应该被区分开 拿基督徒来说 绝大多数祷告也无非是为了个人或家庭平安顺利

中国人丢失信仰的论调近些年愈演愈烈 但是退一步说 即便是以权钱为追求 那依然是一种信仰 我们不能因为信仰变了形式 而认为它不是信仰 信仰多元化事关价值观多元化

料理好自己家的后院是一种信仰 管理好国家的林区也是一种信仰
追随执政党是一种信仰 暴起推翻执政党也是一种信仰
达者为社会贡献是信仰 穷者为糊口奔波也是信仰

等等等等

几千年文化的传承本身就依赖信仰的延续 如今的所谓“信仰缺失之殇”更像是西方价值观冲击中国传统文化之余 人们脑中的东西多了 反而蒙了眼睛看不明白

传统文化是好东西 许多现代人苦思冥想不得其解的问题 早就被古人所参透 传统文化是应该被重新拾起的 因为传统文化教人们“修身”之余 也充满对更复杂理想的诉求 而“修身”是信仰最重要的部分

现在很流行的句式是“中国人没有信仰,于是…………” 彷佛什么社会问题都可以往“信仰缺失”去靠 其实对于中国人来说 信仰很难起到指导我们行为的作用 因为华夏文明的发端和衍生太早了 其发展的过程又有很强的连贯性 期间吸收各种思想的精华 已经没有空间来产生一种普适于大多数中国人的信仰

既然如此 大家都各信各的 如若强行产生一种具有大量受众的信仰 很容易被人利用 再次造成人伦浩劫
40#
发表于 2011-7-14 18:44:32 | 只看该作者
I don't want to argue with you because for us, we have our own view on this world which is not easy to change. For example, I never believe "几千年文化的传承" and "传统文化是好东西" are always positive elements. Sorry to input English for my laptop system doesn't support Chinese.

You can say China is very nice(I know there are many countries which are far behind China). However, for me, there is my mothercountry where I can make money but I worry about its future. Many of my friends are immigrating or have done that(They live in China with passports of other countries).

Don't argue with me in current stage. I believe you will change your mind after you finish your MBA.
One last point, belief is "thinking for your life and behavior" instead of religion, for me. You know, GCD is the biggest party around the world, like what you said - "强行产生一种具有大量受众的信仰 ". Does it work? And, you mention "大家都各信各的" is better, pls tell me the truth that in China, can you "信各的", seriously?
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