比较之庖丁解牛续之动词补出原则 - - 以as likely as与more likely than应用为例

Yvonne1017

好贴啊！！！

  我一直对比较迷迷糊糊的~~一直靠语感做题，今天看到了NN的帖子，茅塞顿开~！！
  哇哈哈~~谢谢啊！！！

lpbird

收藏贴啊，太谢谢了，每次看到你的贴都觉得这个问题肯定搞定了，呵呵。牛人就是不一样啊。

Rolita

谢谢楼主
回复以共勉

pirate舟

忍不住感谢一下

ddeykx

真的真的很有用！我终于弄懂了~~谢谢lz！！~

baixuefei0524

还是这个题：87.(29293-!-item-!-188;#058&003892)

Results of a United States study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine have shown college-educated women and women living in the South and West to be significantly more likely to be using supplemental hormones as women living in the Northeast and Midwest

.

(A) college-educated women and women living in the South and West to be significantly more likely to be using supplemental hormones as women living

(B) college-educated women and women living in the South and West as significantly more likely to use supplemental hormones than if they are living

(C) college-educated women and those living in the South and West being significantly more likely to use supplemental hormones than if they lived

(D) that college-educated women and women who live in the South and West are significantly more likely to be using supplemental hormones as were women that lived

(E) that college-educated women and women living in the South and West are significantly more likely to use supplemental hormones than women living
E为什么不用在最后的women前面加are呢？ 主语的比较不是要加are来避免歧义吗？ 难道这里不加也不会有歧义？


大家讨论的 也不少了，首先引用一下观点

我认为是要加的，但其它选项的错误实在是太明显了。对于加不加谓语动词，我的判断是会不会产生歧义，这道题加are就表明是主语之间的比较，但实际上supplemental hormone也是名词，完全可以理解为用more likely to use supplemental hormone than use women....尽管很arkward，语法上是行得通的。anyway，没人说gmat的语法是完美的

-- by 会员 yexuu (2010/10/27 19:35:57)

我觉得有没有歧义主要是看理解出来的意思通不通~也就是说要make sense~这个如果按照LZ的理解就是 女人用荷尔蒙比用女人多， 可是LZ要怎么看待这句话想表达的含义呢？这种完全不会理解错误的情况下就可以省略动词了~
其实GMAT很多问题都不能抠的太死，很多NN都说过SC的答案是比出来的，尽管正确答案也未必是最优的那一个~

-- by 会员 坤kun (2011/6/2 13:29:07)

不用加，往往加助动词的原因是因为为了明确是 主语与主语之间的比较，但是这道题，显然不会发生语意上的歧义，所以是没必要加的，因为在语义上 college-educated women and women  are more likely to use A than women living in the Northeast and Midwest, 不可能理解成 women use A 比 use 另外一个地区的women 多吧。。这样逻辑意思太离谱了，所以不加完全不会造成歧义的。

另外 D 加了助动词，虽然不错，但是它的助动词是were 不是are ，时态错误了。。因为不是在比较两个不同时期的women ，而是在比较同一时期但在不同地方的women。

hope it helps~

-- by 会员 jameshzd (2011/7/16 21:50:28)

通过大家的讨论，我尝试总结为：其他选项相比正确选项绝对错误；而且该选项所谓的歧义中的那个非主流的意思太离谱，能够在逻辑上被直接否定，所以没有必要加助动词。


但我的问题是：歧义，就是从语法上会产生多于一种的理解或解读。但是在GMAT中的歧义错误中，其实大部分能够被我们的大脑从逻辑上理解作者想表达什么，从而排除另外一个意思。比如我们都知道小明吃苹果比小红吃苹果快，不可能是比吃小红快。 但是有的还是被认为歧义，有的却没有认为歧义。


不知道可否得出比较歧义问题不是一个绝对考点的结论

babybearmm

ls同学给我PM，说下我对ls发言的看法吧，这个贴子ae斑斑总结得挺好的。

"歧义，就是从语法上会产生多于一种的理解或解读。"
我认为只有存在>1种 grammatically AND LOGICALLY satisfied interpretations
这才算是歧义。

很多大家所谓的“歧义”，根本就不logically satisfied!

"其实大部分能够被我们的大脑从逻辑上理解作者想表达什么，从而排除另外一个意思。比如我们都知道小明吃苹果比小红吃苹果快，不可能是比吃小红快。 但是有的还是被认为歧义，有的却没有认为歧义。"

好吧，从逻辑上说，并非你觉得   “我不会理解错，那么这句子就没歧义”
而是：“所有具有正常逻辑思维能力的人都不会理解错，那么这句子就没歧义”

Again, 就是设想所有gramatically and logically satisfied interpretations
看是否大于1种

Analogy:
就像DS题目，
如果满足所有条件的正确答案大于1种，那么就叫做"not sufficient"
如果满足所有条件的正确答案只有1种，那么就叫做"sufficient"

注意，我们考虑的是“满足所有条件的正确答案”，不满足条件的答案不在考虑范围内！
相当于说：语法和逻辑不能完全satisfied的“歧义理解”，根本不在考虑范围内。

wangjieava23

顶顶

ricky901218

aeo真心大神啊！看得我茅塞顿开

rabbit1937

87. (29293-!-item-!-188;#058&003892)
Results of a United States study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine have shown college-educated women and women living in the South and West to be significantly more likely to be using supplemental hormones as women living in the Northeast and Midwest.
(A) college-educated women and women living in the South and West to be significantly more likely to be using supplemental hormones as women living
(B) college-educated women and women living in the South and West as significantly more likely to use supplemental hormones than if they are living
(C) college-educated women and those living in the South and West being significantly more likely to use supplemental hormones than if they lived
(D) that college-educated women and women who live in the South and West are significantly more likely to be using supplemental hormones as were women that lived
(E) that college-educated women and women living in the South and West are significantly more likely to use supplemental hormones than women living

50  Many teenagers undergo stress, but results of a recent study indicate that the patterns of stress that girls experience are more likely to result in depression than are those that boys experience.
(A) are those that boys experience
(B) what boys experience
(C) boys' experience would
(D) boys' stress patterns do
(E) stress patterns of boys
      87题中 第二个women前不需加be动词，women (living in A) are more likely to use
      hormones than women (living in B).  从语法上而言，这个不是肯定要错的吗？为何不用补出are,看了很多人的解释帖子，有的说如果是比use 第二个women前腰加to，但是如果比的是hormone和women，这两个use的对象呢？那不加to在语法上也是没错的啊？感觉这种解释不在点上啊？不知道牛们能否给解释下啊？  
50题中，几乎是一摸一样的结构，这个就果断补出了动词啊。是这两题有区别么？求解释！！

-- by 会员 yangmars (2011/7/14 11:12:28)

87题中， 如果说可能产生歧义的话，那么或许是在likely to use SH than women上面，到底是谁被USE，当然，我想结论是显而易见的——SH，而非women，所以不存在歧义。

然而在50题中，歧义点或产生在result in X than Y 上面，而此题中的Y 如果被导致的话，也貌似能讲通哦。所以为了避免歧义还是要补出的。

总结一下，主系表中主语比较还是要通过含义来判断是不是要补出助动词。这里面表语如果是介词短语的话，往往歧义点就在介宾的身上，要格外注意啦！