GWD整体第一套的几个问题

weiyu

以下是引用juan在2004-6-6 2:29:00的发言：

不是太明白weiyu的意思.A,B中不都是一样的时态吗? 我不太明白A中的compared to..是修饰谁的? 而且觉得很困惑....ETS不是说compare to 和compare with是不同含义的吗.我觉得这里的逻辑意思应该是用compare with的吧?虽然5个选项都用了compare to,不用考虑那么多.可我还是觉得很奇怪...怎么它想用compare to就用compare to了?

有人能帮忙指点一下为什么答案选A吗? 谢谢指点先.

For compare with vs compare t I agree with you

the gerund clause can modify the sentence.

To be discussed...

7．A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

juan

我觉得compared to a ratio of 42 times -->是在比较一个比例ratio,而如果compared to a ratio修饰前面整个句子的话,那么是拿the ratio in 1980和前面什么比较呢?

B错在什么地方呢?

A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

1. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
   
2. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
   
3. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
   
4. CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
   
5. CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

我觉得B中a ratio做前面419times的同位,和42 times in 1980比较,没什么问题呀.

还是又是错在419 times more 和419 times之间的倍数差异,以至导致和句意不符上了?

或者是Pumpkin MM说的on average的修饰位置导致句意改变? 不过我感觉这里这个句意改变实在很微妙...

我还是觉得A中的compared to...修饰对象不对....

请指点..谢谢.

又看了B,是不是错在a ratio that compares to 的that compares上啊?因为compare A to B.--> A is compared to B. 所以B如果改成 , a ratio compared to 42 times,就对吧?

我这样理解对吗? 请指点.谢谢.

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weiyu

I think your idea carefully. I may change my mind now.

Sentence, compared..(gerund phrase is awkward and will confuse the actual meaning)

compared... sentence (logical subject is subject of sentence)

Thanks Juan. I do learn a lot from you.

A ratio .... is more accurate the denotes the comparison objects.

Refer t

38.   Scientists have observed large concentrations of heavy-metal deposits in the upper twenty centimeters of Baltic Sea sediments, which are consistent with the growth of industrial activity there.

(A) Baltic Sea sediments, which are consistent with the growth of industrial activity there

(B) Baltic Sea sediments, where the growth of industrial activity is consistent with these findings

(C) Baltic Sea sediments, findings consistent with its growth of industrial activity

(D) sediments from the Baltic Sea, findings consistent with the growth of industrial activity in the area（D）

(E) sediments from the Baltic Sea, consistent with the growth of industrial activity there

All of the choices but D contain ambiguities. In A and B the words which and where appear to refer to sediments, and in E it is not clear what consistent describes. In A, C, and E, there is no logical place to which there or its could refer. In D, the best choice, the phrase sediments from the Baltic Sea tells where the sediments originate, findings provides a noun for consistent to modify, and in the area clearly identifies where the industrial activity is growing.

64 times + n is better than the expression of 64 times+n than..

mariezhu

A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

1. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
   

个人意见,欢迎大家讨论:

1.an average of 419 times more pay than..读起来awkward, 如果用average修饰pay则不能把两者分开,应该是an average pay of more than 419 times,否则就应该是on average a pay of more than 419 times, 尽管这样在这两个名词结构后面再跟上比较对象the pay(或者that) of bluecollar workers也远没有直接采用动词earn more than 419 times the pay...简洁明了;

2.A选项than的后方应该补出do或者起码也是that of, 否则有歧义之嫌,因为前方没有blue-collar workers的比较对象;

3. compared to a ratio..的问题,前方同样没有合适的比较对象,而修饰workers不合逻辑;

juan

同意marie MM的讲解.那么你觉得这题答案是哪个呢?

我原先prefer B.可我又觉得B中的a ratio that compares...不太对.要是改成a ratio compared to...就好了.

大家看呢?多多讨论....谢谢.

tianwan

Q1:

During her presidency of the short-lived Woman’s State Temperance Society (1852-1853), Elizabeth Cady Stanton, as she was a staunch advocate of liberalized divorce laws, scandalized many of her most ardent supporters in her suggestion that drunkenness should be made sufficient cause for divorce.

A.      as she was a staunch advocate of liberalized divorce laws, scandalized many of her most ardent supporters in her suggestion that drunkenness should be

B.      as she was a staunch advocate for liberalized divorce laws, scandalized many of her most ardent supporters by her suggestion of drunkenness being

C.      in being a staunch advocate for liberalized divorce laws, had scandalized many of her most ardent supporters with the suggestion of drunkenness being

D.      a staunch advocate of liberalized divorce laws, scandalized many of her most ardent supporters by suggesting that drunkenness be

E.      a staunch advocate of liberalized divorce laws, she scandalized many of her most ardent supporters in suggesting that drunkenness should be

最关键的是D的同位语简洁，而且意思清晰。

As从句是个状语从句，此处无法判定是时间，原因还是方式，意思上有模糊性。状语从句一般不放在插入语的位置。

7．A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

A.      that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times

B.      that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times

C.      that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio

D.      CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio

E.      CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

CEO’s就是CEO的复数形式，这是Toefl的基本问题。CEO的复数可以是CEOs，也可以是CEO’s，所有的语法书上都有这个基本语法知识的介绍，名词这一章都有。如果还不明白这种基本问题，建议常备语法书，随时查阅。

Q16:

Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than it was in any previous election.

A.      a greater proportion than it was

B.      a greater proportion than比较错误

C.      a greater proportion than they have been

4. which is greater than was so
   
   



5. which is greater than it has been
   
   

偶觉得B（多谢merie）是最佳答案，D，E先天不足，立刻排除。A的it和C的they没有指代对象。只有C没有问题。(This proportion is) or （more than half the spending is） a greater proportion than (the proportion) in any previous election.

注意：it是指代，即使it明白无误的指向more than half the spending ，A就更加肯定是错的，不能说more than half the spending in any previous election。

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mariezhu

偶觉得C是最佳答案，D，E先天不足，立刻排除。A的it和C的they没有指代对象。只有C没有问题。(This proportion is) or （more than half the spending is） a greater proportion than (the proportion) in any previous election.

呵呵,写错了,你说的是B,偶同意B

jnlvo

it我认为指得是proportion，比较赞同mariezhu的观点，如果it存在似乎had been要好。我好象在大全中见过，a greater proportion than it was 这种句型，只不过后面不是in any previous，可惜现在没找到。看看有没有朋友能找到些相关例句，这样就容易说明问题。

juan

以下是引用pumpkin在2004-6-6 22:21:00的发言：

以下是引用juan在2004-6-6 3:48:00的发言：

我觉得compared to a ratio of 42 times -->是在比较一个比例ratio,而如果compared to a ratio修饰前面整个句子的话,那么是拿the ratio in 1980和前面什么比较呢?

B错在什么地方呢?

A recent review of pay scales indicates that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times in 1980.

1. that CEO’s now earn an average of 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, compared to a ratio of 42 times
   
   
   
2. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, a ratio that compares to 42 times
   
   
   
3. that, on average, CEO’s now earn 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
   
   
4. CEO’s who now earn on average 419 times more pay than blue-collar workers, as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio
   
   
   
5. CEO’s now earning an average of 419 times the pay of blue-collar workers, compared to the ratio of 42 times

我觉得B中a ratio做前面419times的同位,和42 times in 1980比较,没什么问题呀.

还是又是错在419 times more 和419 times之间的倍数差异,以至导致和句意不符上了?

或者是Pumpkin MM说的on average的修饰位置导致句意改变? 不过我感觉这里这个句意改变实在很微妙...

我还是觉得A中的compared to...修饰对象不对....

请指点..谢谢.

又看了B,是不是错在a ratio that compares to 的that compares上啊?因为compare A to B.--> A is compared to B. 所以B如果改成 , a ratio compared to 42 times,就对吧?

我这样理解对吗? 请指点.谢谢.

1. I think the correct one should be

a ratio of sth

not a ratio that

2. on average modified the clause, not the times of pay==> changed the meaning

3. as compared to 42 times their pay, the ratio

the wording here is confusing

I still prefer choice A.

Discussion welcome

可是B除了改变了on average的修饰对象，其他都没问题呀。而A中compared to...前面没有比较对象呀...大家来选选这题的正确答案好吗?

marie MM,你觉得是哪个答案呢?我还是prefer B.

谢谢指点.

mariezhu

以下是引用juan在2004-6-7 1:45:00的发言：

可是B除了改变了on average的修饰对象，其他都没问题呀。而A中compared to...前面没有比较对象呀...大家来选选这题的正确答案好吗?

marie MM,你觉得是哪个答案呢?我还是prefer B.

谢谢指点.

juanMM,偶选B,不同意A的原因前面贴在25楼

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