求offer比较~Rochester和LSE的MSF

abel2009

现在手上有Rochester和LSE的MSF offer，rochester快要交的deposit了，问了各方意见都决定不了，想请大家忙帮看一下~

我没有留在国外的意向，毕业能在国外找到工作最好，找不到回国或者去香港都挺好。而且现在美国、英国好像都留不下来，所以主要是要考虑回国找工作的问题，主要比较因素有以下几点：

location：我觉得这个对找国内的工作尤其重要，要是去rochester的话估计是要跑到纽约去参加job fair的，LSE的位置显然是胜于R的。

时间：R的据说可以延长到17个月，我觉得这样好歹有适应的时间，调整的时间，不会那么赶。LSE就9个月，去了就要抓紧时间找工作，而且据说课程也颇有难度，所以肯定会过的比较紧张。

校友资源：我非常看重周围同学的水平，亲身经历告诉我同学氛围对于一个人的进步有多么重要，是不是这个LSE，起码就MSF这个项目来说，会好一些？

教育氛围：美国的教育体系可能更自由一些，英国相对更死板一些，而且确实听人说国内对美国学位的认可度更高一些。

总之，希望了解情况的同志们指点一下我这个不明真相的人吧~尤其是那些有在国外找工作经验的大牛们~~在这里谢过大家了！！


PS：报背景：TOP2，本科金融，GPA：3.7+，TOEFL：107，GMAT：740+5.5，一个美国暑期学校交流，三个实习。其实木有亮点，但也木有短板，估计是LSE这种卡各种硬件卡的比较严的学校喜欢的吧……

-- by 会员 lydiaqm (2011/1/16 10:32:34)

孩子来lse吧，如果你看中uk的就业机会，那么你还是再咨询一下

abel2009

估计楼主也是一个美国控。好多人说LSE在美国找工作不行，其实我觉得这是不对的。你只要自己GOOGLE 下LSE AT WALL ST就可以知道LSE在美国的校友是多强悍。SIMON在美国确实很牛，不过根本不是跟LSE一等级的。撑死了就是ROSS那个等级。废话不说，我可以QUOTE几段从WIKIPEDIA的话，IN CASE你在国内看不到。我还ATTACH一个LSE在商界的校友录。LSE的政界影响力我想不用我多说了，其实出乎我意料的是很多美国大公司CEO都是那的。

1. The LSE is among the world's most selective universities and has the lowest undergraduate admissions rate of any university in Britain.[9][10] It has the most international student body in the world,[11] and at one time had more countries represented by students than the United Nations has members.[12] The LSE has produced many notable alumni in the fields of law, economics, business, literature and politics. There are currently 16 Nobel Prize winners[13] amongst the LSE's alumni and current and former staff, as well as 34 world leaders and numerous Pulitzer Prize winners and fellows of the British Academy.[14]

2.    * Lord Waheed Alli, House of Lords, media mogul, only openly gay Muslim businessman
   * Lau Ming-Wai, businessman who studied law at LSE; his father is Hong Kong billionaire property developer Joseph Lau who was ranked #458 richest man in the world by Forbes in 2007
   * Delphine Arnault, billionaire French businesswoman
   * Geoffrey Bell, banker, and Group of Thirty founder
   * Sir Gordon Brunton, Chief Executive Thomson Corporation, Former Chairman Sotheby's
   * Richard Caruso, Founder and Chairman of Integra LifeSciences Corporation and 2006 Ernst & Young US Entrepreneur of the Year
   * Tony Fernandes, entrepreneur
   * Clara Furse, former Chief Executive of the London Stock Exchange
   * Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou, entrepreneur, founder of EasyGroup
   * David Heleniak, Vice-Chairman, Morgan Stanley
   * Samuel Isaly, Manager Eaton Vance Worldwide Health Sciences fund
   * Michael S. Jeffries, CEO Abercrombie & Fitch Co.
   * Richard Kahan, Chairman, Riverside South Planning Corporation, Donald Trump's building
   * Robert Kaplan, former Vice-Chairman of Goldman Sachs and Chairman of Goldman Sachs International
   * Michael Kopper, former Enron executive [6]
   * Spiro Latsis, billionaire
   * Charles Lee, Former chairman of the Hong Kong Stock Exchange
   * Frank Mattern, Head McKinsey Germany

   * David Morgan, CEO of Westpac
   * Robert Murley, Vice Chairman of Credit Suisse First Boston and Chairman of Investment Banking for the Americas
   * Arif Naqvi, CEO of Abraaj Capital, the leading private equity firm in the Middle East
   * Christopher Nassetta, President and CEO of Hilton Hotels Corp.
   * Erling Dekke Næss, Norwegian shipowner and businessman
   * Richard Nesbitt, CEO, TSX Group; Toronto Stock Exchange
   * Jorma Ollila, Chairman of Nokia Corporation, Non-executive chairman of Royal Dutch Shell
   * Zarin Patel, BBC's Chief Financial Officer
   * Sheila Penrose, Chairman, Jones Lang LaSalle Incorporated; President of Penrose Group; Director of McDonalds
   * Gary Perlin, CFO Capital One Financial Corporation; Former CFO World Bank
   * Avinash Persaud, Global Head of Currency & Commodity Research at J.P. Morgan
   * Ruth Porat, Chief Financial Officer at Morgan Stanley
   * Philip J. Purcell, former CEO Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
   * Syed Ali Raza, President and Chairman of the National Bank of Pakistan
   * Stephen Robert, co-chairman of CIBC Oppenheimer Holdings Corp, Chancellor of Brown University
   * David Rockefeller, American billionaire and business tycoon
   * Barr Rosenberg, Chairman and director of research, AXA Rosenberg Investment Management LLC
   * Wieslaw Rozlucki, CEO Warsaw Stock Exchange 1991-2006, Poland
   * Maurice Saatchi, founder of Saatchi and Saatchi)
   * George Soros, Notable Financier; Billionaire
   * Brian MacCaba, Notable Jewish CEO of Cognotec
   * Bryan Sanderson CBE, Chairman of Standard Chartered Bank plc
   * Allen Sheppard, Baron Sheppard of Didgemere, industrialist, Chancellor of Middlesex University
   * Lance Uggla , CEO of Markit Group
   * Panagis Vourloumis, Managing Director and President of the OTE's Board, the national telecommunications provider of Greece
   * Arnold Weinstock, English businessman, best known for building GEC
   * Jim Whitehurst, CEO of Red Hat
   * Jacques Bussières, former Governor of the Bank of Jamaica
   * George Arthur Brown, former Governor of the Bank of Jamaica
   * Victor E. Bruce, former Governor of the Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago
   * Winston Dookeran, politician and economist; former Governor of the Caribbean Development Bank and Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago
   * Simone Perillo, Secretary General of F.O.T.A (Formula One Teams Association)

-- by 会员 蒙太奇 (2011/1/16 11:57:01)

萌奇奇，加我好友，我要认识牛人

拜拜offer神

不过为什么TOP2的不去MIT……感觉TOP1、2的不是喜欢去美国的TIER 1就是标准常青藤那些的吗

-- by 会员 阿树 (2011/1/16 11:56:23)

MIT能招几个啊……招走一半还剩一半直接掉到美国的TIER 2了，MSF好学校没多少~中间有空挡

lydiaqm

Vote for Rochester.
Rochester的商学院很牛呀。而且在美国， 至少在我周围的人中reputation还是很高的。不过我对LSE的了解也不是特别多，只是知道Rochester很好。我觉得即使是以后回国， 还是现在这边先有点工作经验比较好吧。而且我觉得你在Rochester应该能学到不少，不只是academic方面。

-- by 会员 wowwowwow123 (2011/1/16 11:10:21)

我不是很care学术方面的东西，我觉得出去读书整个环境对人思维的影响更重要一些~知识这个东西，想学自己就能学了…恩，谢谢你的建议~

lydiaqm

不过为什么TOP2的不去MIT……感觉TOP1、2的不是喜欢去美国的TIER 1就是标准常青藤那些的吗

-- by 会员 阿树 (2011/1/16 11:56:23)

P大T大每年招两千本科生，保守估计三分之一出国，哪可能被美国名校消化完啊…而且各校都有牛人出啊~

freethebmw

我是真的觉得金融硕士那些课程都不是很quant，论课程设置其实没有实质性区别，那么区分学校的关键就在于brand，平台和校友人脉。在这方面，LSE和SIMON相比实在是完胜。。。当然如果楼主是美国控的话那就单说吧，即便rochester的牌子不够，还可以吃top 2的老本呢，看你自己想要什么了

lydiaqm

估计楼主也是一个美国控。好多人说LSE在美国找工作不行，其实我觉得这是不对的。你只要自己GOOGLE 下LSE AT WALL ST就可以知道LSE在美国的校友是多强悍。SIMON在美国确实很牛，不过根本不是跟LSE一等级的。撑死了就是ROSS那个等级。废话不说，我可以QUOTE几段从WIKIPEDIA的话，IN CASE你在国内看不到。我还ATTACH一个LSE在商界的校友录。LSE的政界影响力我想不用我多说了，其实出乎我意料的是很多美国大公司CEO都是那的。

1. The LSE is among the world's most selective universities and has the lowest undergraduate admissions rate of any university in Britain.[9][10] It has the most international student body in the world,[11] and at one time had more countries represented by students than the United Nations has members.[12] The LSE has produced many notable alumni in the fields of law, economics, business, literature and politics. There are currently 16 Nobel Prize winners[13] amongst the LSE's alumni and current and former staff, as well as 34 world leaders and numerous Pulitzer Prize winners and fellows of the British Academy.[14]

2.    * Lord Waheed Alli, House of Lords, media mogul, only openly gay Muslim businessman
   * Lau Ming-Wai, businessman who studied law at LSE; his father is Hong Kong billionaire property developer Joseph Lau who was ranked #458 richest man in the world by Forbes in 2007
   * Delphine Arnault, billionaire French businesswoman
   * Geoffrey Bell, banker, and Group of Thirty founder
   * Sir Gordon Brunton, Chief Executive Thomson Corporation, Former Chairman Sotheby's
   * Richard Caruso, Founder and Chairman of Integra LifeSciences Corporation and 2006 Ernst & Young US Entrepreneur of the Year
   * Tony Fernandes, entrepreneur
   * Clara Furse, former Chief Executive of the London Stock Exchange
   * Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou, entrepreneur, founder of EasyGroup
   * David Heleniak, Vice-Chairman, Morgan Stanley
   * Samuel Isaly, Manager Eaton Vance Worldwide Health Sciences fund
   * Michael S. Jeffries, CEO Abercrombie & Fitch Co.
   * Richard Kahan, Chairman, Riverside South Planning Corporation, Donald Trump's building
   * Robert Kaplan, former Vice-Chairman of Goldman Sachs and Chairman of Goldman Sachs International
   * Michael Kopper, former Enron executive [6]
   * Spiro Latsis, billionaire
   * Charles Lee, Former chairman of the Hong Kong Stock Exchange
   * Frank Mattern, Head McKinsey Germany

   * David Morgan, CEO of Westpac
   * Robert Murley, Vice Chairman of Credit Suisse First Boston and Chairman of Investment Banking for the Americas
   * Arif Naqvi, CEO of Abraaj Capital, the leading private equity firm in the Middle East
   * Christopher Nassetta, President and CEO of Hilton Hotels Corp.
   * Erling Dekke Næss, Norwegian shipowner and businessman
   * Richard Nesbitt, CEO, TSX Group; Toronto Stock Exchange
   * Jorma Ollila, Chairman of Nokia Corporation, Non-executive chairman of Royal Dutch Shell
   * Zarin Patel, BBC's Chief Financial Officer
   * Sheila Penrose, Chairman, Jones Lang LaSalle Incorporated; President of Penrose Group; Director of McDonalds
   * Gary Perlin, CFO Capital One Financial Corporation; Former CFO World Bank
   * Avinash Persaud, Global Head of Currency & Commodity Research at J.P. Morgan
   * Ruth Porat, Chief Financial Officer at Morgan Stanley
   * Philip J. Purcell, former CEO Morgan Stanley Dean Witter
   * Syed Ali Raza, President and Chairman of the National Bank of Pakistan
   * Stephen Robert, co-chairman of CIBC Oppenheimer Holdings Corp, Chancellor of Brown University
   * David Rockefeller, American billionaire and business tycoon
   * Barr Rosenberg, Chairman and director of research, AXA Rosenberg Investment Management LLC
   * Wieslaw Rozlucki, CEO Warsaw Stock Exchange 1991-2006, Poland
   * Maurice Saatchi, founder of Saatchi and Saatchi)
   * George Soros, Notable Financier; Billionaire
   * Brian MacCaba, Notable Jewish CEO of Cognotec
   * Bryan Sanderson CBE, Chairman of Standard Chartered Bank plc
   * Allen Sheppard, Baron Sheppard of Didgemere, industrialist, Chancellor of Middlesex University
   * Lance Uggla , CEO of Markit Group
   * Panagis Vourloumis, Managing Director and President of the OTE's Board, the national telecommunications provider of Greece
   * Arnold Weinstock, English businessman, best known for building GEC
   * Jim Whitehurst, CEO of Red Hat
   * Jacques Bussières, former Governor of the Bank of Jamaica
   * George Arthur Brown, former Governor of the Bank of Jamaica
   * Victor E. Bruce, former Governor of the Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago
   * Winston Dookeran, politician and economist; former Governor of the Caribbean Development Bank and Central Bank of Trinidad and Tobago
   * Simone Perillo, Secretary General of F.O.T.A (Formula One Teams Association)

-- by 会员 蒙太奇 (2011/1/16 11:57:01)

谢谢你啊！！！很有帮助~之前确实十分孤陋寡闻……

vokial

top2这gpa。。。。没机会去MS GS UBS JPM爽下？analyst还是本科做好一些

cutewen

估计楼主也是一个美国控。好多人说LSE在美国找工作不行，其实我觉得这是不对的。你只要自己GOOGLE 下LSE AT WALL ST就可以知道LSE在美国的校友是多强悍。SIMON在美国确实很牛，不过根本不是跟LSE一等级的。撑死了就是ROSS那个等级。废话不说，我可以QUOTE几段从WIKIPEDIA的话，IN CASE你在国内看不到。我还ATTACH一个LSE在商界的校友录。LSE的政界影响力我想不用我多说了，其实出乎我意料的是很多美国大公司CEO都是那的。

-- by 会员 蒙太奇 (2011/1/16 11:57:01)

真他妈的一个群星荟萃啊~我算开了眼了

-- by 会员 阿树 (2011/1/16 12:01:49)

哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。