别拍我，只是不想被剩下-北美哪个学校单身的男生多啊？

Cortega

不报警也不用付法律责任的，什么叫LEGAL　OBLIGATION？你可以说我不报警不道德，但不能说我犯法，如果这样的话那不久前在NYC被老墨杀掉的那个女留学生的案件N多中国人都可以被起诉了

她找什么样的男人当然是个人选择，但是如果她因此整天鄙视你，侮辱你，当你看到她被人欺负的时候难道心里就没有出了一口恶气的感觉？


自己设身处地的想一下，如果你周围有个人整天给你打小报告，到处散播谣言败坏你的名声，你听到他被人暴打一顿的时候第一反应是“怎么没人报警帮助他”还是“这小子早就该被收拾了”？

-- by 会员 Cortega (2010/5/29 1:07:04)

Are you serious?  Moral obligations aside, you have a legal obligation to call the police.  Arrogance and pretence are obviously annoying characteristics, but they are perfectly legal.  Rape is a serious crime that should be punished.

Law should be "reason over passion".  But what you are doing is letting your personal feelings override capital laws, and in that process you are also breaking the law yourself...

-- by 会员 REgirl07 (2010/5/29 2:44:48)

Cortega

MITBBS嫁了外国人后处处数落WSN的国女也不少，五十步笑百步而已。真正品性良好的外嫁女大部分都很低调的，那些女生我可是很尊重的

谁有空整天鄙视你侮辱你啊，人家不过不愿跟他不熟不咋打招呼而已。
摆脱cd的孩子们不要还没到美国就学会了mit没前途wsn那套，咱们是商学院的好不好。
人家找个黑人关你什么事儿啊天哪。
不是针对楼下的小朋友只是很不愿意看到这种阴暗的想法还没出国就开始蔓延！-- by 会员 hissom (2010/5/29 2:23:07)

呵呵。。。
mitbbs这种地方上心理变态的wsn之多。。。有时候真是感到不可思议。。
想来好歹那些人国内都是名牌大学出来的，好歹都是来美国留学的，怎么都那样。。

-- by 会员 stq (2010/5/29 3:11:11)

REgirl07

不报警也不用付法律责任的，什么叫LEGAL　OBLIGATION？你可以说我不报警不道德，但不能说我犯法，如果这样的话那不久前在NYC被老墨杀掉的那个女留学生的案件N多中国人都可以被起诉了

-- by 会员 Cortega (2010/5/29 3:52:34)

While you usually do not have the legal obligation to report a crime, it's different if it's a felony (and rape is DEFINITELY a felony).  The specific law varies by state, but in most states it's a crime to not report a felony.  It's called misprision of felony, punishable by fine and/or prison up to 3 years. (it's title 18, part 1, chapter 1,  § 4 of the U.S. code if you want to confirm).

And yes, the people you mentioned in that case could be prosecuted if they were proven to have committed the act.  So yea, if I didn't call the police on a rape, I probably wouldn't talk about it on an internet forum.

Cortega

问题是你怎么介定我知情不报的？我又没亲眼看到，光听声音我无法界定


另外，我刚才WIKI了一下，你漏了很重要的一点：


This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it.

不报警也不用付法律责任的，什么叫LEGAL　OBLIGATION？你可以说我不报警不道德，但不能说我犯法，如果这样的话那不久前在NYC被老墨杀掉的那个女留学生的案件N多中国人都可以被起诉了

-- by 会员 Cortega (2010/5/29 3:52:34)

While you usually do not have the legal obligation to report a crime, it's different if it's a felony (and rape is DEFINITELY a felony).  The specific law varies by state, but in most states it's a crime to not report a felony.  It's called misprision of felony, punishable by fine and/or prison up to 3 years. (it's title 18, part 1, chapter 1,  § 4 of the U.S. code if you want to confirm).

And yes, the people you mentioned in that case could be prosecuted if they were proven to have committed the act.  So yea, if I didn't call the police on a rape, I probably wouldn't talk about it on an internet forum.

-- by 会员 REgirl07 (2010/5/29 4:02:24)

stq

这不是违法不违法的问题，纯粹是人品问题和心理问题

REgirl07

问题是你怎么介定我知情不报的？我又没亲眼看到，光听声音我无法界定


另外，我刚才WIKI了一下，你漏了很重要的一点：


This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it.

-- by 会员 Cortega (2010/5/29 4:10:35)

Well, this entire discussion is based on the statement that "they knew she was being raped but just didn't do anything".  As for confirmation, reasonable common sense dictates that when you hear certain things, like crying or yelling for help, it's probably a good idea to call the police.

In addition, "active concealment" is actually not clearly defined, so it's up to the interpretation of the judge.  If you knew a felony is being committed and you pretend to not see/hear it (thus allowing it happen), then you are committing an "affirmative act" of the felony.  Depending on the interpretation, you can get away with no real punishment or just a small fine.  oint is, there is a potential legal liability here.  

And you bring up a good point, so if you get asked by the police later about the crime, would you lie about it (actively concealing it)?  If you wouldn't lie about it, then why not just call the police to begin with?

REgirl07

And legal debate aside, are you really trying to justify that act?  You can list all the reasons as to why you are not liable/responsible for something like that.  But can you really live with yourself if you actually did something like that??

bingbingo0

我就不明白为什么中国男生看到中国女人找黑人那么愤愤不平。我认识的一些在美国的中国的男生就这样。中国男人不是也有找白人女生的，都不见中国女生说什么。估计是自己找不到女生然后看到女生还找不如自己的黑人，心里不平衡吧。可是黑人可不见得不如中国男人啊，人家obama还能做总统呢。我觉得找黑人那是个人选择啊，为什么中国男人都这么judgemental

Cortega

你说的这个很难认定，除非我就在强奸案发生现场亲眼目睹。隐瞒罪行针对的其实是强奸犯的同伙，就是当时在场但没有强奸的几个人，这个还是ACTIVELY，自己主动的。


叫床的时候也会叫的很大声，所以我不确定那个女人是否被强奸。警察如果问我我就说不知道，没注意听，或者电视太大声，你根本就无法证实我是主动帮别人隐瞒罪行，很难取证定罪的

问题是你怎么介定我知情不报的？我又没亲眼看到，光听声音我无法界定


另外，我刚才WIKI了一下，你漏了很重要的一点：


This offense, however, requires active concealment of a known felony rather than merely failing to report it.

-- by 会员 Cortega (2010/5/29 4:10:35)

Well, this entire discussion is based on the statement that "they knew she was being raped but just didn't do anything".  As for confirmation, reasonable common sense dictates that when you hear certain things, like crying or yelling for help, it's probably a good idea to call the police.

In addition, "active concealment" is actually not clearly defined, so it's up to the interpretation of the judge.  If you knew a felony is being committed and you pretend to not see/hear it (thus allowing it happen), then you are committing an "affirmative act" of the felony.  Depending on the interpretation, you can get away with no real punishment or just a small fine.  oint is, there is a potential legal liability here.  

And you bring up a good point, so if you get asked by the police later about the crime, would you lie about it (actively concealing it)?  If you wouldn't lie about it, then why not just call the police to begin with?

-- by 会员 REgirl07 (2010/5/29 4:32:17)