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MBA让你成为更好的CEO.....Or Not?

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21#
发表于 2010-3-14 12:49:15 | 只看该作者
只是想抛砖引玉而已。用词不妥,请见谅。

这篇INSEAD Study的对象是CEO。自然排除了非CEO,或是不想成为CEO的群体。

其实它说了一个很简单的道理:如果只是以创业,或是以成为公司CEO为目标而去读MBA,应该重新考虑这个教育给你带来的价值。MBA虽然不是必需品,它能把你“从无到有”拔高到professional manager【高级打工仔】的位置。但是剩下的还得靠自己。

BW那篇文章最可笑的一点是:Those who choose to do an MBA, the readers said, are opting to improve themselves. Their openness to ideas and willingness to learn is going to benefit them all the way to the top—and long after they arrive in the executive suite. 难道不读MBA就没有这点特质。。。。?
-- by 会员 topmba2009 (2010/3/14 9:00:13)


我想这段话的意思是说那些愿意读MBA 的人愿意go out of the way to spend extra money, time and effort to improve themselves, 因此更说明了他们愿意接受新的思想(as compared to those who stick to the status quo)...
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发表于 2010-3-14 13:10:30 | 只看该作者
一月份的Harvard Business Review上对世界上业绩最好的50名CEO做了份排名。见以下下载链接。
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZDGBIRSG

INSEAD 的 CEO Ranking Database
http://knowledge.insead.edu/top-ceos.cfm
http://www.insead.edu/media_relations/press_release/2009_CEOrankings.cfm

紧接着,这份研究的作者在BW上撰文《Why Do MBAs Make Better CEOs?》
http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/content/feb2010/bs20100218_190012.htm

我认为里面的结论非常弱:

    For some graduates, an MBA simply gives them better skills. It can add right-brain creativity and warmth to left-brain logic and financial acumen. Or vice versa. It can even help get the hard and soft skills working together.
    For others, an MBA is a badge of excellence. After all, top schools only accept a chosen few. And most top companies look among the elite for their leaders.
    An MBA may also provide a network of other rising stars. This network offers business contacts, opportunities, and priceless advice. And it lasts for an entire career.
 各位有什么高见?还是觉得MBA本身就是loser的游戏?拍砖吧。
-- by 会员 topmba2009 (2010/3/13 23:35:15)


读MBA的人不一定都是为了做CEO去的,世界这么大,能成为CEO的人毕竟有限,古语云:天时地利人和,读了MBA顶多算成就了半个“人和”,如何能以成为CEO来定义MBA的价值呢?
我想大部分的CDers都没有Naive到把MBA当做通向CEO的充分条件,那只是一个过程,一个重新提高和审视自己,拓宽自己视界的过程。所有的CDers都知道MBA之路何其不易,至少,敢于迈出第一步,并且无畏无惧坚定不移的走下去,并取得成功的人,从某种意义上来说,就已经远胜于一般人了,怎么能称之为loser呢?
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发表于 2010-3-14 18:57:00 | 只看该作者
大部分CEO不是MBA, 所以读MBA没用

比尔·盖茨没读完大学,所以读大学没用。

有时候纵向的跟自己比,会比较好,为了自己更美好的生活,至于能不能CEO,God knows...
24#
发表于 2010-3-14 19:17:26 | 只看该作者
其实,不用纠结于自己是winner还是loser。你拼命到你自己那个limit份上,如果此时bschool是最好的选择就bschool好了。各人有各人的level和path。winner或者loser应该跟自己比,你要是已经把自己所有的潜力开发出来了就是winner。
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发表于 2010-3-14 19:22:19 | 只看该作者
另外有一点,如果你是top talent可能你怎么都能上去,要只是一般人儿搞个credential总归doesn't hurt。
26#
发表于 2010-3-14 19:31:14 | 只看该作者
其实,不用纠结于自己是winner还是loser。你拼命到你自己那个limit份上,如果此时bschool是最好的选择就bschool好了。各人有各人的level和path。winner或者loser应该跟自己比,你要是已经把自己所有的潜力开发出来了就是winner。
-- by 会员 hissom (2010/3/14 19:17:26)


nod nod~~~ your potential , our passion~~
27#
 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-14 20:36:11 | 只看该作者
i think most of the CEOs probably graduated from college 30-40 years ago. The value of an MBA at their times was not as pronounced as it is now. To me I don't see how much valuable info can we draw from this study. It is somewhat like 刻舟求剑.
It's like saying we don't need a college degree because many of the rich people in China now do not have a college degree.

We are in a different era now. Much of what is taught in B-school nowadays are discoveries in recent years. Take finance for example, the derivatives market started to take shape only in 1980s after BlackScholes and Binomial tree in the 70s..  Business issues are becoming more complex. Our understanding of organizational behavior, human psychology, finance and capital markets and many many other aspects of business are on a unprecedented high level, unlike 30-40 years ago.
The MBA degree offers a platform where all these advanced knowledge can be systematically inculcated. With our knowledge continue to advance in such areas, an MBA could only become more and more valuable.
-- by 会员 wordance (2010/3/14 12:38:01)


刻舟求剑 --- Insightful!

Maybe we should come back 20 years from now and see what the new stats look like?
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-14 20:53:43 | 只看该作者
其实MBA只是一个职业培训,无需看得太重。Henry Mintzberg有本书《Managers Not MBAs》可以参考。
-- by 会员 bolococo (2010/3/14 10:01:01)


谢了! 有空一定读读: http://rapidshare.com/files/67094806/Managers_Not_MBAs.rar
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-14 20:59:17 | 只看该作者
两者没有直接联系
-- by 会员 怪叔叔 (2010/3/14 10:16:24)


我想该研究着重的是已经成为CEO的人中,MBA会不会让你成为更好的CEO。MBA既不是CEO的必要条件,更不是充分条件。但是有没有可能通过一定量的观察,总结出一些有规律可循的东西来?我想,即便是这点,都不是容易回答的问题。
30#
 楼主| 发表于 2010-3-14 21:06:18 | 只看该作者
对于绝大多数的人来说,去读MBA都是因为目前的发展出现了瓶颈。
-- by 会员 aspirant2010 (2010/3/14 4:15:48)


同意。对于绝大多数人而言,MBA = 美国梦 + 事业新起点的机会。很多时候,这两点混在一起,让人非常不能自拔。特别是在投入巨大时间精力的情况下,若是不能如愿,会让人十分纠结。
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